From dzorich at mindspring.com  Mon Mar  2 08:09:01 2009
From: dzorich at mindspring.com (Diane M. Zorich)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:09:01 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Fwd: VRA Intellectual Property Rights News: February 2009
Message-ID: <p06200701c5d1b083c7b8@[10.0.1.199]>

The latest IP news from Jen Green via the VRA list...

Wow, things are really getting "curiouser and 
curiouser".  From Damien Hirst's threatened suit 
against a young collage artist (recently 
discussed by Amalyah Keshet on the Musematic blog 
- http://musematic.net/?p=599  and in articles 
noted below) to  YouTube's takedown (on the 
insistence of Warner Brothers) of a young girl 
singing "Winter Wonderland".    You can't make 
this stuff up.




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>IPR-In the News
>Compiled by Jen Green, Massachusetts College of Art + Design
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Thousands Sign Petition Demanding Cell Phone Freedom
>Electronic Frontier Foundation, February 2, 2009
>http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/02/02-0
>
>"EFF submitted a petition to the U.S. Copyright 
>Office signed by more than 8200 people demanding 
>that the office lift the legal cloud hanging 
>over cell phone customers who modify their 
>phones."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>YouTube Copyright System Gone Mad, EFF Prepares to Sue
>by Marshall Kirkpatrick, Read Write Web, February 3, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/c7ncrj
>
>"YouTube and Warner Brothers have broken a 
>little girl's heart by deleting a video of her 
>singing the copyrighted song "Winter 
>Wonderland," and the Electronic Frontier 
>Foundation isn't going to take it anymore."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>YouTube's January Fair Use Massacre
>by Fred von Lohmann, Electronic Frontier Foundation, February 3, 2009
>http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-use-massacre
>
>"Fair use has always been at risk on YouTube, 
>thanks to abusive DMCA takedown notices sent by 
>copyright owners (sometimes carelessly, 
>sometimes not). But in the past several weeks, 
>two things have made things much worse for those 
>who want to sing a song, post an a capella 
>tribute, or set machinima to music."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>AP Alleges Copyright Infringement of Obama Image
>by Hillel Italie, AP National Writer, Yahoo News, February 4, 2009
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_en_ot/obama_poster;_ylt=Av
>
>"On buttons, posters and Web sites, the image 
>was everywhere during last year's presidential 
>campaign: A pensive Barack Obama looking upward, 
>as if to the future, splashed in a Warholesque 
>red, white and blue and underlined with the 
>caption HOPE."
>
>See also below: "AP Goes After Obama Artist for 
>Copyright Violation"  and "Artist Sues The A.P. 
>Over Obama Image"
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>UK Copyright Holder Getting Creative in Quest for Royalties
>Zero Paid, February 4, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/ajr55z
>
>"The UK Performing Rights Society for Music 
>(PRS), a copyright holder group that collects 
>royalty payments for songwriters and composers, 
>is going after workplaces where anybody other 
>than the one listening to a radio can hear it."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Digital Pirates Winning Battle with Studios
>by Brian Stelter and Brad Stone, New York Times, February 4, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/b4rpd4
>
>"On the day last July when "The Dark Knight" 
>arrived in theaters, Warner Brothers was ready 
>with an ambitious antipiracy campaign that 
>involved months of planning and steps to monitor 
>each physical copy of the film."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>RIAA Drops Lawsuits but Keeps the 'Takedown' Notices Coming
>by Sara Lipka, The Chronicle of Higher 
>Education: Wired Campus February 4, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/alng6m
>
>"The Recording Industry Association of America 
>announced in December that it was shifting gears 
>and would stop suing groups of students for 
>alleged illegal file sharing. So what is it 
>doing now?"
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Blog: Idiot Copyright Holders
>by Ryan J. Davis, Huffington Post, February 5, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/as6m6c
>
>"In 1947 Tennessee Williams wrote a masterpiece 
>of a play, Streetcar Named Desire, which has 
>been a major part of the American dramatic 
>cannon for over sixty years. It's now 2009 and 
>Mark Sam Rosenthal has put together a satirical 
>look at the government's response to Hurricane 
>Katrina through the eyes of Blanche DuBois, 
>Streetcar's leading lady. The play, Blanche 
>Survives Katrina in a FEMA Trailer Named Desire, 
>is a one person drag performance that didn't 
>really work for me - but certainly is not in any 
>way infringement on Tennessee Williams' 
>intellectual property."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Copyright Alliance and AAP Welcome Re-introduction of Anti-open Access Bill
>by Peter Suber, Public Knowledge, February 6, 2009
>http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1981
>
>"Two publisher groups which supported the 
>Conyers bill the last time around are supporting 
>it again. No surprises here."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>AP Goes After Obama Artist for Copyright Violation
>by Gene Quinn, IP Watchdog, February 6, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/c2qt69
>
>"A Los-Angeles based street artist named Shepard 
>Fairey created what many would say was one of 
>the most enduring images of the 2008 
>Presidential Campaign, a poster of Barack Obama 
>with a stern and confident look gazing slightly 
>upward and to his left.  The trouble with this 
>poster is that is based on a copyrighted photo 
>taken by the Associated Press, and the 
>Associated Press wants to be paid for the use of 
>the photograph."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Artist Sues The A.P. Over Obama Image
>by Randy Kennedy, New York Times, February 9, 2009
>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/arts/design/10fair.html
>
>In a pre-emptive strike, the street artist 
>Shepard Fairey filed a lawsuit on Monday against 
>The Associated Press, asking a federal judge to 
>declare that he is protected from copyright 
>infringement claims in his use of a news 
>photograph as the basis for a now ubiquitous 
>campaign poster image of President Obama.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Judge: Psystar Can Claim Apple 'Copyright Misuse.'
>by Dawn Kawamoto, CNET News, February 9, 2009
>http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10159450-37.html
>
>"A federal judge is letting Mac clone maker 
>Psystar amend its legal defense against Apple."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Berlin: Germany Rejects Three-Strikes Piracy Plan
>by Wolfgang Spahr, Billboard.biz, February 10, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/bd9l4z
>
>"The German federal government has decided 
>against embracing the Olivennes Agreement - the 
>French model for combating illegal file-sharing 
>activities. The French three-strikes scheme 
>would cut off the ISP connections of repeat 
>offenders who violated copyright by illegally 
>downloading content."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Artists Flout Copyright Law to Attack Damien Hirst
>Telegraph.co.uk, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/b2pjtm
>
>"Damien Hirst's work has been being 'ripped off' 
>by a group of artists who want to make a point 
>about the multimillionaire's stringent use of 
>copyright law."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Amazon.com's Kindle 2 Faces Possible Copyright Battle
>by Nicholas Kolakowski, eWeek.com, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/cw92f6
>
>"Amazon.com's Kindle 2 mobile electronic reader 
>had a buzz-heavy Feb. 13 launch with Jeff Bezos 
>and Stephen King. But now The Authors Guild says 
>the Kindle 2's text-to-speech feature could 
>violate authors' audio book copyrights."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Record Labels Make ISPs 'Copyright Cops' for Piracy
>by Kristen Schweizer and Adam Satariano, Bloomberg.com, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/cxp3pb
>
>"The world's biggest record companies sued 
>college students, a 12-year-old girl and a dead 
>woman and still failed to stamp out music 
>piracy. Now they're turning to Internet service 
>providers."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>New From YouTube: Free Downloads of College Lectures
>by David Sheih, Chronicle of Higher Educaiton: Wired Campus, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/dk4noo
>
>"YouTube began testing a new feature that lets 
>users download videos posted to the site from 
>partner institutions - including colleges - 
>rather than just watching the videos in a 
>streaming format. That means people can grab 
>lectures from Duke and Stanford Universities and 
>several institutions in the University of 
>California system to watch any time, with or 
>without an Internet connection."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The Pirate Bay Trial to Begin in Sweden
>by Peter Musil, CNET News, February 15, 2009
>http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10164777-93.html
>
>"File-swappers are expected to be keeping their 
>eyes on a court in Sweden this week as a 
>landmark copyright-infringement trial gets under 
>way."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Could You Go to Jail for Jailbreaking Your iPhone?
>by Saul Hansell, New York Times, February 16, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/ao7s34
>
>"There is something deeply exasperating about 
>the debate, spotlighted Thursday, about whether 
>unlocking an iPhone violates Apple's copyright 
>on the cellphone's software. There's a real 
>issue at stake, but it isn't fundamentally about 
>copyrights."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Pirate Bay Joy at Charge Change
>BBC News, February 17, 2009
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7895026.stm
>
>"Half of the charges leveled at the founders of 
>the Pirate Bay file-sharing site have been 
>dropped."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Mozilla Backs Move to Decriminalize iPhone Jailbreaking
>by Gregg Keizer, PC World, February 17, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/aoayyu
>
>"Firefox unwelcome on the iPhone, says CEO, who says 'choice shouldn't
>be criminalized.'"
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Agreement Reached on Internet Music Royalty Rates
>by Rachel Metz, AP, Washington Post, February 17, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/cldobr
>
>"A group that collects royalties for music 
>artists and recording companies has agreed to 
>reduce rates for thousands of commercial radio 
>stations that also play songs over the Internet."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Blog: ? ollectania:  Just when you thought you'd 
>heard enough about Shepherd Fairey and the AP
>by Peter Jaszi, February 18, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/dafyqy
>
>"As you'll discover quickly, I'm a big fan and 
>promoter of fair use -- a user-friendly doctrine 
>in our copyright law that is too often 
>misunderstood and (more critically) 
>underutilized. A lot of my work in the last five 
>years has been around getting different practice 
>communities to recognize and own their fair use 
>rights, and I'll be blogging about the resultant 
>"Best Practices" in fair use documents sometime 
>soon. Today, however, I want to suggest 
>(somewhat uncharacteristically) that the fair 
>use handle may not be the best one (or, at 
>least, not the only one), by which to pick up 
>the by now widely-publicized controversy between 
>the street artist turned culture hero Shepherd 
>Fairey and the Associated Press."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Facebook Withdraws Changes in Data Use
>by Brad Stone and Brian Stelter, New York Times, February 18, 2009
>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/technology/internet/19facebook.html?_r=2&hp
>
>"After three days of pressure from angry users 
>and the threat of a formal legal complaint by a 
>coalition of consumer advocacy groups, the 
>company reversed changes to its contract with 
>users that had appeared to give it perpetual 
>ownership of their contributions to the service."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Delta Sued for Inflight Wifi Service
>by Kelly Yamanouchi, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, February 18, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/bku47k
>
>"Ashland, Mass.-based Ambit Corp., a technology 
>development firm, claims in its suit that 
>Atlanta-based Delta and Wi-Fi provider Aircell 
>LLC infringe on its patent for a "system for 
>enabling communication from personal computer 
>communication devices located within a passenger 
>vehicle to a distant communication system 
>located outside of said passenger vehicle," 
>using antennae on the devices."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Fairy Use
>by Chloe Johnson, The Wire, February 19, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/cbn8jj
>
>"As a freelance photographer covering Capital 
>Hill and last year's presidential campaigns, 
>Mannie Garcia saw the chin-up image of Barack 
>Obama in "Hope" posters daily-without realizing 
>it was his photo that inspired it.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Obama Administration Mulls Constitutionality of Copyright Act
>by David Kravets, Wired Blog Network, February 19, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/aox7pa
>
>"In a few weeks, we'll likely know the Obama 
>administration's position on whether it supports 
>hefty monetary awards in file sharing litigation 
>brought by the Recording Industry Association of 
>America."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>New Zealand Copyright Protest Blockades Parliament
>by Juha Saarinen, ZDNet.com.au, February 19, 2009
>http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-270800.html
>
>"The fight over the controversial amendments to New Zealand's copyright
>law is heating up."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Webcasters: Still (!) No Deal on Streaming Royalties
>by John Timmer, Ars Technica, February 19, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/dkjx7h
>
>"The Webcaster Settlement Act gave those running 
>Internet audio streams until this week to come 
>to an agreement regarding royalties for the 
>music used. Although public and traditional 
>radio stations have cut licensing deals with 
>SoundExchange, Internet-only stations remain 
>unable to come to terms."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Judge Recognizes 'Hot News' Issue in Copyright Action by AP Service
>by Mark Hamblett, New York Law Journal, February 23, 2009
>http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202428484361
>
>"Harking back to a 1919 U.S. Supreme Court 
>decision, a Manhattan federal judge has 
>recognized the right of The Associated Press to 
>claim a property right in the "hot news" it 
>distributes."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Library Associations Oppose Repealing Public Access Bill, Urge Action
>Information Today Inc., February 23, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/czrkzt
>
>"The Fair Copyright in Research Works Act, H.R. 
>801(http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.801:), 
>recently introduced by Rep. John Conyers, 
>D-Mich., would repeal the NIH Public Access 
>Policy and prevent other federal agencies from 
>enacting similar open access policies."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Many thanks to all of our VRA-IPR members who 
>are monitoring multiple listservs to make this 
>IPR news posting possible. Please submit any 
>comments, questions, or suggestions to Jen Green 
>at jen.green at massart.edu


-- 
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From rebecca at earley.com  Mon Mar  2 17:15:53 2009
From: rebecca at earley.com (Rebecca Allen)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:15:53 -0800
Subject: [MCN-L] (Event) Auto Tagging Requirements & Advances
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Auto Tagging Requirements & Advances

Taxonomy Community of Practice Call Series
Session Date:  March 4, 2009

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Auto tagging is one of those areas that has been full of promise, yet fallen short of expectations. Over the years, vendors have developed various approaches to deriving and applying metadata to content but some require more effort (such as development of large training sets) than manual tagging would. However, algorithms have gotten better and engines smarter and there are new approaches to auto tagging that we will explore. Many organizations are realizing that they need more metadata on content and are increasingly investing in these approaches. We'll discuss what works and how to address tagging requirements.

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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Tue Mar  3 05:02:26 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:02:26 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG:  You can't make this stuff up
In-Reply-To: <p06200701c5d1b083c7b8@[10.0.1.199]>
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Add to the circus: Amazon's caving in on the issue of TTS (text to speech) function on its Kindle e-book reader. A serious infringement of readers' rights:

http://news.cnet.com/amazon-retreats-on-kindles-text-to-speech-issue/

http://www.lessig.org/blog/2009/02/caving_into_bullies_aka_here_w.html
"We're worse off with the Kindle because if ... publishers get to control a right which Congress hasn't given them -- the right to control whether I can read my book to my kid, or my Kindle can read a book to me -- users and innovators have less freedom. And we may be worse off with Google Books, because (in ways not clear when the settlement was first reported) the consequence of the class action mechanism may well disable users and innovators from doing what fair use plainly entitled Google to do."

Amalyah Keshet


________________________________


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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:09 PM
To: mcn-l at toronto.mediatrope.com
Subject: [MCN-L] Fwd: VRA Intellectual Property Rights News: February 2009

The latest IP news from Jen Green via the VRA list...

Wow, things are really getting "curiouser and curiouser".  From Damien Hirst's threatened suit against a young collage artist (recently discussed by Amalyah Keshet on the Musematic blog
- http://musematic.net/?p=599  and in articles noted below) to YouTube's takedown (on the insistence of Warner Brothers) of a young girl singing "Winter Wonderland".    You can't make this stuff up.




________________________________



>Date:         Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:39:47 -0500
>Reply-To:     Visual Resources Association <VRA-L at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
>IPR-In the News
>Compiled by Jen Green, Massachusetts College of Art + Design
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Thousands Sign Petition Demanding Cell Phone Freedom Electronic
>Frontier Foundation, February 2, 2009
>http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/02/02-0
>
>"EFF submitted a petition to the U.S. Copyright Office signed by more
>than 8200 people demanding that the office lift the legal cloud hanging
>over cell phone customers who modify their phones."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>YouTube Copyright System Gone Mad, EFF Prepares to Sue by Marshall
>Kirkpatrick, Read Write Web, February 3, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/c7ncrj
>
>"YouTube and Warner Brothers have broken a little girl's heart by
>deleting a video of her singing the copyrighted song "Winter
>Wonderland," and the Electronic Frontier Foundation isn't going to take
>it anymore."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>YouTube's January Fair Use Massacre
>by Fred von Lohmann, Electronic Frontier Foundation, February 3, 2009
>http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-use-massacre
>
>"Fair use has always been at risk on YouTube, thanks to abusive DMCA
>takedown notices sent by copyright owners (sometimes carelessly,
>sometimes not). But in the past several weeks, two things have made
>things much worse for those who want to sing a song, post an a capella
>tribute, or set machinima to music."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>AP Alleges Copyright Infringement of Obama Image by Hillel Italie, AP
>National Writer, Yahoo News, February 4, 2009
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_en_ot/obama_poster;_ylt=Av
>
>"On buttons, posters and Web sites, the image was everywhere during
>last year's presidential
>campaign: A pensive Barack Obama looking upward, as if to the future,
>splashed in a Warholesque red, white and blue and underlined with the
>caption HOPE."
>
>See also below: "AP Goes After Obama Artist for Copyright Violation"
>and "Artist Sues The A.P.
>Over Obama Image"
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>UK Copyright Holder Getting Creative in Quest for Royalties Zero Paid,
>February 4, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/ajr55z
>
>"The UK Performing Rights Society for Music (PRS), a copyright holder
>group that collects royalty payments for songwriters and composers, is
>going after workplaces where anybody other than the one listening to a
>radio can hear it."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Digital Pirates Winning Battle with Studios by Brian Stelter and Brad
>Stone, New York Times, February 4, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/b4rpd4
>
>"On the day last July when "The Dark Knight"
>arrived in theaters, Warner Brothers was ready with an ambitious
>antipiracy campaign that involved months of planning and steps to
>monitor each physical copy of the film."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>RIAA Drops Lawsuits but Keeps the 'Takedown' Notices Coming by Sara
>Lipka, The Chronicle of Higher
>Education: Wired Campus February 4, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/alng6m
>
>"The Recording Industry Association of America announced in December
>that it was shifting gears and would stop suing groups of students for
>alleged illegal file sharing. So what is it doing now?"
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Blog: Idiot Copyright Holders
>by Ryan J. Davis, Huffington Post, February 5, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/as6m6c
>
>"In 1947 Tennessee Williams wrote a masterpiece of a play, Streetcar
>Named Desire, which has been a major part of the American dramatic
>cannon for over sixty years. It's now 2009 and Mark Sam Rosenthal has
>put together a satirical look at the government's response to Hurricane
>Katrina through the eyes of Blanche DuBois, Streetcar's leading lady.
>The play, Blanche Survives Katrina in a FEMA Trailer Named Desire, is a
>one person drag performance that didn't really work for me - but
>certainly is not in any way infringement on Tennessee Williams'
>intellectual property."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Copyright Alliance and AAP Welcome Re-introduction of Anti-open Access
>Bill by Peter Suber, Public Knowledge, February 6, 2009
>http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1981
>
>"Two publisher groups which supported the Conyers bill the last time
>around are supporting it again. No surprises here."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>AP Goes After Obama Artist for Copyright Violation by Gene Quinn, IP
>Watchdog, February 6, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/c2qt69
>
>"A Los-Angeles based street artist named Shepard Fairey created what
>many would say was one of the most enduring images of the 2008
>Presidential Campaign, a poster of Barack Obama with a stern and
>confident look gazing slightly upward and to his left.  The trouble
>with this poster is that is based on a copyrighted photo taken by the
>Associated Press, and the Associated Press wants to be paid for the use
>of the photograph."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Artist Sues The A.P. Over Obama Image
>by Randy Kennedy, New York Times, February 9, 2009
>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/arts/design/10fair.html
>
>In a pre-emptive strike, the street artist Shepard Fairey filed a
>lawsuit on Monday against The Associated Press, asking a federal judge
>to declare that he is protected from copyright infringement claims in
>his use of a news photograph as the basis for a now ubiquitous campaign
>poster image of President Obama.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Judge: Psystar Can Claim Apple 'Copyright Misuse.'
>by Dawn Kawamoto, CNET News, February 9, 2009
>http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10159450-37.html
>
>"A federal judge is letting Mac clone maker Psystar amend its legal
>defense against Apple."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Berlin: Germany Rejects Three-Strikes Piracy Plan by Wolfgang Spahr,
>Billboard.biz, February 10, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/bd9l4z
>
>"The German federal government has decided against embracing the
>Olivennes Agreement - the French model for combating illegal
>file-sharing activities. The French three-strikes scheme would cut off
>the ISP connections of repeat offenders who violated copyright by
>illegally downloading content."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Artists Flout Copyright Law to Attack Damien Hirst Telegraph.co.uk,
>February 13, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/b2pjtm
>
>"Damien Hirst's work has been being 'ripped off'
>by a group of artists who want to make a point about the
>multimillionaire's stringent use of copyright law."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Amazon.com's Kindle 2 Faces Possible Copyright Battle by Nicholas
>Kolakowski, eWeek.com, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/cw92f6
>
>"Amazon.com's Kindle 2 mobile electronic reader had a buzz-heavy Feb.
>13 launch with Jeff Bezos and Stephen King. But now The Authors Guild
>says the Kindle 2's text-to-speech feature could violate authors' audio
>book copyrights."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Record Labels Make ISPs 'Copyright Cops' for Piracy by Kristen
>Schweizer and Adam Satariano, Bloomberg.com, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/cxp3pb
>
>"The world's biggest record companies sued college students, a
>12-year-old girl and a dead woman and still failed to stamp out music
>piracy. Now they're turning to Internet service providers."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>New From YouTube: Free Downloads of College Lectures by David Sheih,
>Chronicle of Higher Educaiton: Wired Campus, February 13, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/dk4noo
>
>"YouTube began testing a new feature that lets users download videos
>posted to the site from partner institutions - including colleges -
>rather than just watching the videos in a streaming format. That means
>people can grab lectures from Duke and Stanford Universities and
>several institutions in the University of California system to watch
>any time, with or without an Internet connection."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>The Pirate Bay Trial to Begin in Sweden by Peter Musil, CNET News,
>February 15, 2009 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10164777-93.html
>
>"File-swappers are expected to be keeping their eyes on a court in
>Sweden this week as a landmark copyright-infringement trial gets under
>way."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Could You Go to Jail for Jailbreaking Your iPhone?
>by Saul Hansell, New York Times, February 16, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/ao7s34
>
>"There is something deeply exasperating about the debate, spotlighted
>Thursday, about whether unlocking an iPhone violates Apple's copyright
>on the cellphone's software. There's a real issue at stake, but it
>isn't fundamentally about copyrights."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Pirate Bay Joy at Charge Change
>BBC News, February 17, 2009
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7895026.stm
>
>"Half of the charges leveled at the founders of the Pirate Bay
>file-sharing site have been dropped."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Mozilla Backs Move to Decriminalize iPhone Jailbreaking by Gregg
>Keizer, PC World, February 17, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/aoayyu
>
>"Firefox unwelcome on the iPhone, says CEO, who says 'choice shouldn't
>be criminalized.'"
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Agreement Reached on Internet Music Royalty Rates by Rachel Metz, AP,
>Washington Post, February 17, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/cldobr
>
>"A group that collects royalties for music artists and recording
>companies has agreed to reduce rates for thousands of commercial radio
>stations that also play songs over the Internet."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Blog: (c) ollectania:  Just when you thought you'd heard enough about
>Shepherd Fairey and the AP by Peter Jaszi, February 18, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/dafyqy
>
>"As you'll discover quickly, I'm a big fan and promoter of fair use --
>a user-friendly doctrine in our copyright law that is too often
>misunderstood and (more critically) underutilized. A lot of my work in
>the last five years has been around getting different practice
>communities to recognize and own their fair use rights, and I'll be
>blogging about the resultant "Best Practices" in fair use documents
>sometime soon. Today, however, I want to suggest (somewhat
>uncharacteristically) that the fair use handle may not be the best one
>(or, at least, not the only one), by which to pick up the by now
>widely-publicized controversy between the street artist turned culture
>hero Shepherd Fairey and the Associated Press."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Facebook Withdraws Changes in Data Use
>by Brad Stone and Brian Stelter, New York Times, February 18, 2009
>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/technology/internet/19facebook.html?_
>r=2&hp
>
>"After three days of pressure from angry users and the threat of a
>formal legal complaint by a coalition of consumer advocacy groups, the
>company reversed changes to its contract with users that had appeared
>to give it perpetual ownership of their contributions to the service."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Delta Sued for Inflight Wifi Service
>by Kelly Yamanouchi, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, February 18,
>2009 http://tinyurl.com/bku47k
>
>"Ashland, Mass.-based Ambit Corp., a technology development firm,
>claims in its suit that Atlanta-based Delta and Wi-Fi provider Aircell
>LLC infringe on its patent for a "system for enabling communication
>from personal computer communication devices located within a passenger
>vehicle to a distant communication system located outside of said
>passenger vehicle,"
>using antennae on the devices."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Fairy Use
>by Chloe Johnson, The Wire, February 19, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/cbn8jj
>
>"As a freelance photographer covering Capital Hill and last year's
>presidential campaigns, Mannie Garcia saw the chin-up image of Barack
>Obama in "Hope" posters daily-without realizing it was his photo that
>inspired it.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Obama Administration Mulls Constitutionality of Copyright Act by David
>Kravets, Wired Blog Network, February 19, 2009
>http://tinyurl.com/aox7pa
>
>"In a few weeks, we'll likely know the Obama administration's position
>on whether it supports hefty monetary awards in file sharing litigation
>brought by the Recording Industry Association of America."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>New Zealand Copyright Protest Blockades Parliament by Juha Saarinen,
>ZDNet.com.au, February 19, 2009
>http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-270800.html
>
>"The fight over the controversial amendments to New Zealand's copyright
>law is heating up."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Webcasters: Still (!) No Deal on Streaming Royalties by John Timmer,
>Ars Technica, February 19, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/dkjx7h
>
>"The Webcaster Settlement Act gave those running Internet audio streams
>until this week to come to an agreement regarding royalties for the
>music used. Although public and traditional radio stations have cut
>licensing deals with SoundExchange, Internet-only stations remain
>unable to come to terms."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Judge Recognizes 'Hot News' Issue in Copyright Action by AP Service by
>Mark Hamblett, New York Law Journal, February 23, 2009
>http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202428484361
>
>"Harking back to a 1919 U.S. Supreme Court decision, a Manhattan
>federal judge has recognized the right of The Associated Press to claim
>a property right in the "hot news" it distributes."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Library Associations Oppose Repealing Public Access Bill, Urge Action
>Information Today Inc., February 23, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/czrkzt
>
>"The Fair Copyright in Research Works Act, H.R.
>801(http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.801:),
>recently introduced by Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., would repeal the NIH
>Public Access Policy and prevent other federal agencies from enacting
>similar open access policies."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------
>
>Many thanks to all of our VRA-IPR members who are monitoring multiple
>listservs to make this IPR news posting possible. Please submit any
>comments, questions, or suggestions to Jen Green at
>jen.green at massart.edu


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From Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org  Tue Mar  3 06:47:42 2009
From: Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org (Jeanne Kessler)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:47:42 -0600
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
Message-ID: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>

Hi -

I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.

We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure out the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried to invite our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, and we received very few responses.  I am under the impression that if we are are a group, rather than a page we can communicate more actively with those interested in us.

I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on this issue.

Thanks.

Jeanne Kessler
IT Project Manager
The National WWII Museum
945 Magazine Street
New Orleans, LA 70130
Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
Cell: 504/723-0765
Fax: 504/527-6088
Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/>


From Thomas.Deliduka at cmaohio.org  Tue Mar  3 07:00:22 2009
From: Thomas.Deliduka at cmaohio.org (Thomas Deliduka)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:00:22 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
Message-ID: <307ABFF8E627124A8D6449D1292A162E8BD0@cma-srv-xch-01.cmaohio.org>

The Columbus Museum of Art has a Page for the art museum and a group for our "doodles" program. 

www.facebook.com/pages/Columbus-OH/Columbus-Museum-of-Art/29592092216

I feel like a page is more geared towards organizations. You can use it for advertising with their page tools and can track when people are coming to your page. Yes, when you advertise events, people get updates on their side. But they still will get them.

The rate of return on social networking is generally pretty low. So, even though people are getting your message, normally they're not acting on it. It's still good to do social networking like this but it generally has a much lower rate of return.

We use our page, primarily, as a means of more advertising where we try to get people involved as fans to post their fan photos. That way others when visiting can see what fun they had.

Thomas Deliduka
Director of Information Technology
Columbus Museum of Art
480 East Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43215
ph 614/629-0345 fax 614/629-0950
thomas.deliduka at cmaohio.org
 
ART SPEAKS. JOIN THE CONVERSATION
-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Kessler
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:48 AM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages

Hi -

I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.

We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure out the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried to invite our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, and we received very few responses.  I am under the impression that if we are are a group, rather than a page we can communicate more actively with those interested in us.

I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on this issue.

Thanks.

Jeanne Kessler
IT Project Manager
The National WWII Museum
945 Magazine Street
New Orleans, LA 70130
Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
Cell: 504/723-0765
Fax: 504/527-6088
Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/>

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From beth at bethkanter.org  Tue Mar  3 07:03:40 2009
From: beth at bethkanter.org (Beth Kanter)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:03:40 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
Message-ID: <4550b5110903030703p619b6f81i3f818b38013ae9a9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jeanne:

This might help
The What, Why, and How of Facebook Fan Pages
http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2008/09/what-why-and-ho.html



On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jeanne Kessler <
Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org> wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their
> institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.
>
> We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure out
> the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried to invite
> our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, and we received
> very few responses.  I am under the impression that if we are are a group,
> rather than a page we can communicate more actively with those interested in
> us.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on this
> issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeanne Kessler
> IT Project Manager
> The National WWII Museum
> 945 Magazine Street
> New Orleans, LA 70130
> Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
> Cell: 504/723-0765
> Fax: 504/527-6088
> Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/>
>
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From beth at bethkanter.org  Tue Mar  3 07:20:56 2009
From: beth at bethkanter.org (Beth Kanter)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:20:56 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <307ABFF8E627124A8D6449D1292A162E8BD0@cma-srv-xch-01.cmaohio.org>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
	<307ABFF8E627124A8D6449D1292A162E8BD0@cma-srv-xch-01.cmaohio.org>
Message-ID: <4550b5110903030720ifb94aedr5e98b7bbf0d394e3@mail.gmail.com>

Thomas:

Would love to know how you calculate the rate of return for your Facebook
Page?  B

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Thomas Deliduka <
Thomas.Deliduka at cmaohio.org> wrote:

> The Columbus Museum of Art has a Page for the art museum and a group for
> our "doodles" program.
>
> www.facebook.com/pages/Columbus-OH/Columbus-Museum-of-Art/29592092216
>
> I feel like a page is more geared towards organizations. You can use it for
> advertising with their page tools and can track when people are coming to
> your page. Yes, when you advertise events, people get updates on their side.
> But they still will get them.
>
> The rate of return on social networking is generally pretty low. So, even
> though people are getting your message, normally they're not acting on it.
> It's still good to do social networking like this but it generally has a
> much lower rate of return.
>
> We use our page, primarily, as a means of more advertising where we try to
> get people involved as fans to post their fan photos. That way others when
> visiting can see what fun they had.
>
> Thomas Deliduka
> Director of Information Technology
> Columbus Museum of Art
> 480 East Broad Street
> Columbus, OH 43215
> ph 614/629-0345 fax 614/629-0950
> thomas.deliduka at cmaohio.org
>
> ART SPEAKS. JOIN THE CONVERSATION
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Jeanne Kessler
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:48 AM
> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
>
> Hi -
>
> I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their
> institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.
>
> We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure out
> the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried to invite
> our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, and we received
> very few responses.  I am under the impression that if we are are a group,
> rather than a page we can communicate more actively with those interested in
> us.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on this
> issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeanne Kessler
> IT Project Manager
> The National WWII Museum
> 945 Magazine Street
> New Orleans, LA 70130
> Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
> Cell: 504/723-0765
> Fax: 504/527-6088
> Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/>
>
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From hmwells at springdalear.gov  Tue Mar  3 07:23:09 2009
From: hmwells at springdalear.gov (Heather Marie Wells)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:23:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [MCN-L] AAM Roommate
In-Reply-To: <4550b5110903030703p619b6f81i3f818b38013ae9a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
	<4550b5110903030703p619b6f81i3f818b38013ae9a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FBE4E9E45C554E4D84DA7494EC8ED283@sprd.springdaleark.org>

Hi all,

I'm looking for a non-smoker roommate for AAM.  If anyone is interested
please email me at hmwells at springdalear.gov.

Thanks, 

Heather Marie

Heather Marie Wells
Collections Assistant/Podcast Producer
Shiloh Museum of Ozark History
118 W. Johnson Ave.
Springdale, AR 72764
Phone: (479) 750-8165
Fax: (479) 750-8693
http://www.springdalear.gov/shiloh/

From Thomas.Deliduka at cmaohio.org  Tue Mar  3 08:11:56 2009
From: Thomas.Deliduka at cmaohio.org (Thomas Deliduka)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:11:56 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <4550b5110903030720ifb94aedr5e98b7bbf0d394e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org><307ABFF8E627124A8D6449D1292A162E8BD0@cma-srv-xch-01.cmaohio.org>
	<4550b5110903030720ifb94aedr5e98b7bbf0d394e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <307ABFF8E627124A8D6449D1292A162E8BD3@cma-srv-xch-01.cmaohio.org>

We don't actually. We just do the stuff in our spare time and if we get people from it, great. But ther is no ROI being calculated. We don't have the staff to dedicate to social networking sites and if we did, we would probably find we're doing lots of work with little return. At least that's what I'm seeing online in presentations I've seen.

It's good to get your name out there in this manner. "presence" is very important. But don't dedicate so many hours to it that you're not getting your normal work done. Perhaps in the future it will be better but in the end, the web is mainly social so it's a method of building relationships rather than customers.

Thomas Deliduka
Director of Information Technology
Columbus Museum of Art
480 East Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43215
ph 614/629-0345 fax 614/629-0950
thomas.deliduka at cmaohio.org
 
ART SPEAKS. JOIN THE CONVERSATION

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Beth Kanter
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages

Thomas:

Would love to know how you calculate the rate of return for your Facebook Page?  B

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Thomas Deliduka < Thomas.Deliduka at cmaohio.org> wrote:

> The Columbus Museum of Art has a Page for the art museum and a group 
> for our "doodles" program.
>
> www.facebook.com/pages/Columbus-OH/Columbus-Museum-of-Art/29592092216
>
> I feel like a page is more geared towards organizations. You can use 
> it for advertising with their page tools and can track when people are 
> coming to your page. Yes, when you advertise events, people get updates on their side.
> But they still will get them.
>
> The rate of return on social networking is generally pretty low. So, 
> even though people are getting your message, normally they're not acting on it.
> It's still good to do social networking like this but it generally has 
> a much lower rate of return.
>
> We use our page, primarily, as a means of more advertising where we 
> try to get people involved as fans to post their fan photos. That way 
> others when visiting can see what fun they had.
>
> Thomas Deliduka
> Director of Information Technology
> Columbus Museum of Art
> 480 East Broad Street
> Columbus, OH 43215
> ph 614/629-0345 fax 614/629-0950
> thomas.deliduka at cmaohio.org
>
> ART SPEAKS. JOIN THE CONVERSATION
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf 
> Of Jeanne Kessler
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:48 AM
> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
>
> Hi -
>
> I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their 
> institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.
>
> We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure 
> out the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried 
> to invite our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, 
> and we received very few responses.  I am under the impression that if 
> we are are a group, rather than a page we can communicate more 
> actively with those interested in us.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on 
> this issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeanne Kessler
> IT Project Manager
> The National WWII Museum
> 945 Magazine Street
> New Orleans, LA 70130
> Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
> Cell: 504/723-0765
> Fax: 504/527-6088
> Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/
> >
>
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From shazan at netvision.net.il  Tue Mar  3 09:10:29 2009
From: shazan at netvision.net.il (Susan Hazan)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:10:29 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
Message-ID: <49AD6485.9040808@netvision.net.il>

I am maintaining a list of museums on Facebook (groups and fan pages) see:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=8173798651
I hope that you find it useful
Susan Hazan



Jeanne Kessler wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.
>
> We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure out the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried to invite our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, and we received very few responses.  I am under the impression that if we are are a group, rather than a page we can communicate more actively with those interested in us.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on this issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeanne Kessler
> IT Project Manager
> The National WWII Museum
> 945 Magazine Street
> New Orleans, LA 70130
> Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
> Cell: 504/723-0765
> Fax: 504/527-6088
> Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/>
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From lists at rlweiner.com  Tue Mar  3 09:13:24 2009
From: lists at rlweiner.com (Robert Weiner)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:13:24 -0800
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
References: <2A57828BC165D64E88DB9A957CB84BE02DC43D2525@650store.ddaymuseum.org>
Message-ID: <D8350522D7D5444587280B71417341D8@RLWT400>

Dear Jeanne,

Here's an article on Facebook groups vs. pages:
http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2008/02/18/facebook-groups-vs-facebook-pages/ 

I've also posted links to lots of social media how-to's and best practices
at
http://www.rlweiner.com/resources#social%20media

Robert
__________________________
 
Robert L. Weiner Consulting
Strategic Technology Advisors to Nonprofit and Educational Institutions
San Francisco, CA
 
robert at rlweiner.com
415/643-8955 
 
www.rlweiner.com
 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:48 AM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook - Groups vs. Pages

Hi -

I am interested in knowing if anyone is using Facebook for their
institutions, and if so, if they are using a page, a group or both.

We have a Facebook page and a bunch of 'fans' and are trying to figure out
the best way to take advantage of this group.  We recently tried to invite
our fans to an event, but it was sent out as a page update, and we received
very few responses.  I am under the impression that if we are are a group,
rather than a page we can communicate more actively with those interested in
us.

I'd love to hear from anyone with any experience and/or suggestions on this
issue.

Thanks.

Jeanne Kessler
IT Project Manager
The National WWII Museum
945 Magazine Street
New Orleans, LA 70130
Phone: 504/527-6012, ext. 228
Cell: 504/723-0765
Fax: 504/527-6088
Jeanne.Kessler at nationalww2museum.org<http://www.nationalww2museum.org/>

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From psully at magnes.org  Tue Mar  3 11:55:21 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:55:21 -0800
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>

Hi everyone:

 

Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item pages
within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and Reddit
and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.

 

Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 


From aridavidow at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 13:01:02 2009
From: aridavidow at gmail.com (Ari Davidow)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:01:02 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <747cfaf50903031301m55c9a457pa3b56ef20d312fdf@mail.gmail.com>

We do it through a "block" or some such embedded in Drupal--it is the
sort of thing that should be controlled by your CMS because the
underlying code has to be able to send the page URL as part of sharing
(as different from just using an "include" statement). If ya'll are
using Drupal, I can ask our web developer which module (or what code)
he is using and pass that along.

ari

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Perian Sully <psully at magnes.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
>
>
> Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item pages
> within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
> share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and Reddit
> and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
> into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.
>
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
> advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> ~Perian
>
>
>
> Perian Sully
>
> Collections Information Manager
>
> Web Programs Strategist
>
> The Magnes
>
> 2911 Russell St.
>
> Berkeley, CA 94705
>
> Work: 510-549-6950 x 357
>
> Fax: 510-849-3673
>
> http://www.magnes.org
>
> http://www.musematic.org
>
> http://www.mediaandtechnology.org
>
>
>
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From rebecca at schwenkfelder.com  Tue Mar  3 13:13:00 2009
From: rebecca at schwenkfelder.com (Rebecca Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:13:00 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook-Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1236110402.28901.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Message-ID: <E9B4A32F532C4EFD83BAE045C0ABCA1A@Schwenkfelder.local>

Hello,

>From the small museum perspective:

The Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center has a Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pennsburg-PA/Schwenkfelder-Library-Heritage-ce
nter/21293856113?ref=ts

We don't have many fans. We have 33, as of today, March 2nd. 
We have a small staff of 6; I'm unofficially the web guru, officially the
museum educator.

I find Facebook has been helpful to generate conversation among visitors and
staff. To me it's important to maintain a dialogue, no matter the means.  I
keep a calendar of events and occasionally post exhibit reception photos. No
one ever directly responds, but I've had families attend a program and
casually mentioned they saw us on Facebook. Someone has been reading it. 

Our fans are parents who come to our family workshops, staff members and
members of the Schwenkfelder church (one of our constituencies). Most of our
"fans" come here on a regular basis. I recognize almost all of them. If it
doesn't establish new connections, it at least helps to maintain the
relationships we have.

In addition, having a Facebook page allows me to continue a dialogue about
using "new" technology especially if there are staff and volunteers who only
view the internet as a large search engine and a place to check email. 
 

Thanks,

Rebecca


Rebecca Lawrence
Museum Educator
Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center
105 Seminary Street
Pennsburg PA 18073
(215) 679-3103
www.schwenkfelder.com





From kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org  Tue Mar  3 14:21:13 2009
From: kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org (Kaia Landon)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:21:13 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
In-Reply-To: <747cfaf50903031301m55c9a457pa3b56ef20d312fdf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
	<747cfaf50903031301m55c9a457pa3b56ef20d312fdf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d499bb7b0903031421r1bdbd4bv237c489ec499d4d@mail.gmail.com>

We too do it through a module in Drupal -- Service Links.  Depending on what
you want, there are other Drupal modules with similar options.

If you aren't using Drupal, check your CMS.  If you aren't using a CMS,
visit http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php for the Add This widget.

Kaia


---
Kaia Landon
Curator of Education
Mesa Historical Museum


On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com> wrote:

> We do it through a "block" or some such embedded in Drupal--it is the
> sort of thing that should be controlled by your CMS because the
> underlying code has to be able to send the page URL as part of sharing
> (as different from just using an "include" statement). If ya'll are
> using Drupal, I can ask our web developer which module (or what code)
> he is using and pass that along.
>
> ari
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Perian Sully <psully at magnes.org> wrote:
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item pages
> > within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
> > share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and Reddit
> > and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
> > into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
> > advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Perian
> >
> >
> >
> > Perian Sully
> >
> > Collections Information Manager
> >
> > Web Programs Strategist
> >
> > The Magnes
> >
> > 2911 Russell St.
> >
> > Berkeley, CA 94705
> >
> > Work: 510-549-6950 x 357
> >
> > Fax: 510-849-3673
> >
> > http://www.magnes.org
> >
> > http://www.musematic.org
> >
> > http://www.mediaandtechnology.org
> >
> >
> >
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> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
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From mia.ridge at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 14:26:40 2009
From: mia.ridge at gmail.com (Mia)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:26:40 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
In-Reply-To: <d499bb7b0903031421r1bdbd4bv237c489ec499d4d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
	<747cfaf50903031301m55c9a457pa3b56ef20d312fdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<d499bb7b0903031421r1bdbd4bv237c489ec499d4d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <acbaa5330903031426i79953869gc970d1ecc08c6592@mail.gmail.com>

When I was at the Museum of London, we started using the 'addthis'
widget from addthis.com.  If you use it, make sure you set it up to
use your username so you can track usage - it's fun seeing where and
how it's used.

cheers, Mia
--------------------------------------------
http://openobjects.org.uk/


>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Perian Sully <psully at magnes.org> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item pages
>> > within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
>> > share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and Reddit
>> > and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
>> > into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
>> > advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?

From dmitroff at SFMOMA.org  Wed Mar  4 09:56:12 2009
From: dmitroff at SFMOMA.org (Mitroff Silvers, Dana)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:56:12 -0800
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <FE4932E414474E4B9B19C4A4B43CEC0F03F30308@monet.SFMOMA.ORG>

We just incorporated AddThis on the SFMOMA site. It's highly
customizable and we're happy with it so far. We felt we didn't need to
reinvent something that already existed and was available via a free
tool. 
You can see it on this collection page:
http://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/213


The Walker, being way cooler than us, built their own.
http://blogs.walkerart.org/newmedia/2008/12/22/enabling-users-to-share-c
ontent-to-social-media-sites/

Dana

 
......................................
Dana Mitroff Silvers
Head of Online Services
San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
151 Third Street
San Francisco, CA  94103-3159
dmitroff at sfmoma.org
www.sfmoma.org



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Perian Sully
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:55 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections

Hi everyone:

 

Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item pages
within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and Reddit
and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.

 

Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 

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From dbenavraham at newmuseum.org  Wed Mar  4 12:49:59 2009
From: dbenavraham at newmuseum.org (Doron Ben-Avraham)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:49:59 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
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Message-ID: <2F26D29C50CB2843BC777C02AA16ABB2F09F32@new-sv-003.newmuseum.org>

Disclosure: 
I am involved in the development process of this project.

ShiftSpace is an open source browser plugin for collaboratively
annotating, editing and shifting the web. You can create notes,
highlights etc... on any web page collections included, the code is free
and opensource, so you can take it and deploy it internally.


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   1. Re: Share bookmarklets on online collections (Ari Davidow)
   2. Re: Facebook-Groups vs. Pages (Rebecca Lawrence)
   3. Re: Share bookmarklets on online collections (Kaia Landon)
   4. Re: Share bookmarklets on online collections (Mia)
   5. Re: Share bookmarklets on online collections
      (Mitroff Silvers, Dana)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:01:02 -0500
From: Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

We do it through a "block" or some such embedded in Drupal--it is the
sort of thing that should be controlled by your CMS because the
underlying code has to be able to send the page URL as part of sharing
(as different from just using an "include" statement). If ya'll are
using Drupal, I can ask our web developer which module (or what code)
he is using and pass that along.

ari

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Perian Sully <psully at magnes.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
>
>
> Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item
pages
> within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
> share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and
Reddit
> and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
> into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.
>
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
> advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> ~Perian
>
>
>
> Perian Sully
>
> Collections Information Manager
>
> Web Programs Strategist
>
> The Magnes
>
> 2911 Russell St.
>
> Berkeley, CA 94705
>
> Work: 510-549-6950 x 357
>
> Fax: 510-849-3673
>
> http://www.magnes.org
>
> http://www.musematic.org
>
> http://www.mediaandtechnology.org
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:13:00 -0500
From: "Rebecca Lawrence" <rebecca at schwenkfelder.com>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Facebook-Groups vs. Pages
To: <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Message-ID: <E9B4A32F532C4EFD83BAE045C0ABCA1A at Schwenkfelder.local>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hello,

>From the small museum perspective:

The Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center has a Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pennsburg-PA/Schwenkfelder-Library-Heritag
e-ce
nter/21293856113?ref=ts

We don't have many fans. We have 33, as of today, March 2nd. 
We have a small staff of 6; I'm unofficially the web guru, officially
the
museum educator.

I find Facebook has been helpful to generate conversation among visitors
and
staff. To me it's important to maintain a dialogue, no matter the means.
I
keep a calendar of events and occasionally post exhibit reception
photos. No
one ever directly responds, but I've had families attend a program and
casually mentioned they saw us on Facebook. Someone has been reading it.


Our fans are parents who come to our family workshops, staff members and
members of the Schwenkfelder church (one of our constituencies). Most of
our
"fans" come here on a regular basis. I recognize almost all of them. If
it
doesn't establish new connections, it at least helps to maintain the
relationships we have.

In addition, having a Facebook page allows me to continue a dialogue
about
using "new" technology especially if there are staff and volunteers who
only
view the internet as a large search engine and a place to check email. 
 

Thanks,

Rebecca


Rebecca Lawrence
Museum Educator
Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center
105 Seminary Street
Pennsburg PA 18073
(215) 679-3103
www.schwenkfelder.com






------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:21:13 -0700
From: Kaia Landon <kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Message-ID:
	<d499bb7b0903031421r1bdbd4bv237c489ec499d4d at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

We too do it through a module in Drupal -- Service Links.  Depending on
what
you want, there are other Drupal modules with similar options.

If you aren't using Drupal, check your CMS.  If you aren't using a CMS,
visit http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php for the Add This widget.

Kaia


---
Kaia Landon
Curator of Education
Mesa Historical Museum


On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We do it through a "block" or some such embedded in Drupal--it is the
> sort of thing that should be controlled by your CMS because the
> underlying code has to be able to send the page URL as part of sharing
> (as different from just using an "include" statement). If ya'll are
> using Drupal, I can ask our web developer which module (or what code)
> he is using and pass that along.
>
> ari
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Perian Sully <psully at magnes.org>
wrote:
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item
pages
> > within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch
of
> > share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and
Reddit
> > and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily
embedded
> > into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
> > advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Perian
> >
> >
> >
> > Perian Sully
> >
> > Collections Information Manager
> >
> > Web Programs Strategist
> >
> > The Magnes
> >
> > 2911 Russell St.
> >
> > Berkeley, CA 94705
> >
> > Work: 510-549-6950 x 357
> >
> > Fax: 510-849-3673
> >
> > http://www.magnes.org
> >
> > http://www.musematic.org
> >
> > http://www.mediaandtechnology.org
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:26:40 +0000
From: Mia <mia.ridge at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Message-ID:
	<acbaa5330903031426i79953869gc970d1ecc08c6592 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

When I was at the Museum of London, we started using the 'addthis'
widget from addthis.com.  If you use it, make sure you set it up to
use your username so you can track usage - it's fun seeing where and
how it's used.

cheers, Mia
--------------------------------------------
http://openobjects.org.uk/


>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Perian Sully <psully at magnes.org>
wrote:
>> > Hi everyone:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item
pages
>> > within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch
of
>> > share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and
Reddit
>> > and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily
embedded
>> > into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
>> > advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:56:12 -0800
From: "Mitroff Silvers, Dana" <dmitroff at SFMOMA.org>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Message-ID:
	<FE4932E414474E4B9B19C4A4B43CEC0F03F30308 at monet.SFMOMA.ORG>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

We just incorporated AddThis on the SFMOMA site. It's highly
customizable and we're happy with it so far. We felt we didn't need to
reinvent something that already existed and was available via a free
tool. 
You can see it on this collection page:
http://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/213


The Walker, being way cooler than us, built their own.
http://blogs.walkerart.org/newmedia/2008/12/22/enabling-users-to-share-c
ontent-to-social-media-sites/

Dana

 
......................................
Dana Mitroff Silvers
Head of Online Services
San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
151 Third Street
San Francisco, CA  94103-3159
dmitroff at sfmoma.org
www.sfmoma.org



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Perian Sully
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:55 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections

Hi everyone:

 

Has anyone implemented the use of sharing tools on individual item pages
within their museum's online collections? I want to request a bunch of
share links to del.icio.us, Zotero, Facebook, Twitter, Digg, and Reddit
and I think there are some tools to help do this (code easily embedded
into the page), but I don't recall the names of them right now.

 

Has anyone had any experience with doing this and can provide some
advice? Any other sites I should be able to share on?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 

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From macarthurm at si.edu  Wed Mar  4 12:51:01 2009
From: macarthurm at si.edu (MacArthur, Matthew)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:51:01 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Job announcement - NMAH
Message-ID: <33A14FF0EA0FDC48ACFDD5518517E5350223F18C@SI-ECL02.US.SINET.SI.EDU>

The National Museum of American History, Kenneth E. Behring Center,
Smithsonian Institution, is seeking a motivated team member to support
Web and new media efforts at the Museum.  Duties include posting and
maintaining content on the Museum Web site, contributing to social media
outreach, and preparing and organizing digital materials.  Your work
will specifically support the Museum's Lemelson Center for the Study of
Invention and Innovation, and promote our education partnership with
Thinkfinity.org.  You will also provide administrative and general
office support.

Applicants must demonstrate organizational skills, familiarity with
educational uses of the Internet, and experience with the tools of Web
publishing such as Dreamweaver and Photoshop.  The best qualified
applicants will also have strong writing skills and experience producing
digital multimedia.

This is a fulltime, 1-year non-federal position (renewable).  Salary
$41,210 plus excellent benefits.  To apply, send your resume to
nmahweb at si.edu by March 15, 2009.

The Smithsonian is an Equal Opportunity employer.  Women and minorities
are encouraged to apply.

Matthew MacArthur
Director of New Media
National Museum of American History

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From srothman at fas.harvard.edu  Wed Mar  4 13:30:42 2009
From: srothman at fas.harvard.edu (Steve Rothman)
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:30:42 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
In-Reply-To: <FE4932E414474E4B9B19C4A4B43CEC0F03F30308@monet.SFMOMA.ORG>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
	<FE4932E414474E4B9B19C4A4B43CEC0F03F30308@monet.SFMOMA.ORG>
Message-ID: <49AEF302.6060409@fas.harvard.edu>

I've never looked into these kinds of widgets before, but now I'm intrigued.

Besides http://addthis.com/ I've found similar services from 
http://sharethis.com/ and  http://www.addtoany.com/ and I suspect there 
are dozens more.

It looks like they make it really easy for the webmaster to add some 
great functionality to the site. But I'm wondering:

     How are these services making money for themselves?
     Are there any privacy / security issues for the visitor to the site 
or for the owner of the site?
     Do the services work reliably and do they affect page load times 
noticeably?
     How difficult would it be to switch from one of these sites to 
another, if a problem develops?

I guess the alternative is to build this stuff oneself, like the Walker 
did in the link below - but with the dizzying pace of new services being 
introduced I like the idea of gadget that keeps track of all the latest 
services automatically.

-Steve

> We just incorporated AddThis on the SFMOMA site. It's highly
> customizable and we're happy with it so far. We felt we didn't need to
> reinvent something that already existed and was available via a free
> tool. 
> You can see it on this collection page:
> http://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/213
>
>
> The Walker, being way cooler than us, built their own.
> http://blogs.walkerart.org/newmedia/2008/12/22/enabling-users-to-share-c
> ontent-to-social-media-sites/
>
> Dana
>
>  
> ......................................
> Dana Mitroff Silvers
> Head of Online Services
> San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
> 151 Third Street
> San Francisco, CA  94103-3159
> dmitroff at sfmoma.org
> www.sfmoma.org
>
>
>   

-- 

Steve Rothman, Systems Administrator
Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology
617-495-9968   -   srothman at fas.harvard.edu 


From hmwells at springdalear.gov  Wed Mar  4 13:41:53 2009
From: hmwells at springdalear.gov (Heather Marie Wells)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:41:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook-Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <E9B4A32F532C4EFD83BAE045C0ABCA1A@Schwenkfelder.local>
References: <mailman.0.1236110402.28901.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
	<E9B4A32F532C4EFD83BAE045C0ABCA1A@Schwenkfelder.local>
Message-ID: <FFE56801BE674446B135131B4A5EF3F3@sprd.springdaleark.org>


The following is a link to a post by Mark Zuckerberg on the Facebook blog
announcing that they are going to start allowing organization pages to
start looking and functioning like regular user profiles.

The pertinent content is under the "What's new today" heading.  It's nice
that Facebook is acknowledging that people like to connect to
organizations in the same manner that they connect to their friends. 

http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=57822962130


Heather Marie Wells
Collections Assistant/Podcast Producer
Shiloh Museum of Ozark History
118 W. Johnson Ave.
Springdale, AR 72764
Phone: (479) 750-8165
Fax: (479) 750-8693
http://www.springdalear.gov/shiloh/

-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca Lawrence [mailto:rebecca at schwenkfelder.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:13 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Facebook-Groups vs. Pages

Hello,

>From the small museum perspective:

The Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center has a Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pennsburg-PA/Schwenkfelder-Library-Heritage-
ce
nter/21293856113?ref=ts

We don't have many fans. We have 33, as of today, March 2nd. 
We have a small staff of 6; I'm unofficially the web guru, officially the
museum educator.

I find Facebook has been helpful to generate conversation among visitors
and
staff. To me it's important to maintain a dialogue, no matter the means.
I
keep a calendar of events and occasionally post exhibit reception photos.
No
one ever directly responds, but I've had families attend a program and
casually mentioned they saw us on Facebook. Someone has been reading it. 

Our fans are parents who come to our family workshops, staff members and
members of the Schwenkfelder church (one of our constituencies). Most of
our
"fans" come here on a regular basis. I recognize almost all of them. If it
doesn't establish new connections, it at least helps to maintain the
relationships we have.

In addition, having a Facebook page allows me to continue a dialogue about
using "new" technology especially if there are staff and volunteers who
only
view the internet as a large search engine and a place to check email. 
 

Thanks,

Rebecca


Rebecca Lawrence
Museum Educator
Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center
105 Seminary Street
Pennsburg PA 18073
(215) 679-3103
www.schwenkfelder.com




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From mia.ridge at gmail.com  Wed Mar  4 13:42:33 2009
From: mia.ridge at gmail.com (Mia)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:42:33 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Share bookmarklets on online collections
In-Reply-To: <49AEF302.6060409@fas.harvard.edu>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647816@jlm-net.jlm.local>
	<FE4932E414474E4B9B19C4A4B43CEC0F03F30308@monet.SFMOMA.ORG>
	<49AEF302.6060409@fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <acbaa5330903041342m682c54p49da8c685288efe3@mail.gmail.com>

2009/3/4 Steve Rothman <srothman at fas.harvard.edu>:

> It looks like they make it really easy for the webmaster to add some
> great functionality to the site. But I'm wondering:
>
> ? ? How are these services making money for themselves?
> ? ? Are there any privacy / security issues for the visitor to the site
> or for the owner of the site?
> ? ? Do the services work reliably and do they affect page load times
> noticeably?
> ? ? How difficult would it be to switch from one of these sites to
> another, if a problem develops?
>
> I guess the alternative is to build this stuff oneself, like the Walker
> did in the link below - but with the dizzying pace of new services being
> introduced I like the idea of gadget that keeps track of all the latest
> services automatically.

That was the attraction for me - there's no way I could keep up with
the sites different types of users were using.

The code is simple enough that you could do a 'search and replace' if
you needed to, and it would be even easier to swap services if your
site uses includes or templates.

The links are actually stored on the related site (e.g. Facebook or
delicious or whatever).  I'm not sure how they make money - perhaps by
selling aggregated user data?

Good questions!

cheers, Mia

--------------------------------------------
http://openobjects.org.uk/

From jmartin at nedcc.org  Wed Mar  4 13:49:52 2009
From: jmartin at nedcc.org (Julie Martin)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:49:52 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Digital Directions Conference San Diego,
	May 27-29 - Register Now!
Message-ID: <47E4285788DDFD40BF43C4F178A048662AFC08@NEDCCMAIL01.NEDCC.local>

Apologies for cross-postings...

REGISTER ONLINE NOW: www.nedcc.org

DIGITAL DIRECTIONS: 
Fundamentals of Creating 
and Managing Digital Collections

MAY 27-29, 2009
Westin San Diego
San Diego, California

CO-SPONSORED by the Balboa Art Conservation Center.  

FOR COMPLETE CONFERENCE INFORMATION AND TO REGISTER ONLINE, visit:
www.nedcc.org

THIS THREE-DAY CONFERENCE PRESENTS THE ESSENTIALS OF DIGITIZATION. A
national faculty of digital experts will introduce participants to the
range of activities and issues associated with digitizing collection
material. From file formats to fundraising, from digital printing to
digital asset management, this exciting conference provides an excellent
opportunity to learn and network.

CONFERENCE TOPICS INCLUDE:
Planning a Digital Project, Digitization Concepts, Standards and Best
Practices, Mechanics of Metadata, Digital Asset Management, Outsourcing
and Vendor Relations, Selection and Preparation for Digitization,
Essentials of Delivery Systems, Copyright and Rights Management, Digital
Printing, Access on a Shoestring, Collaboration, Budgeting, and
Fundraising. 

VENDOR SHOWCASE AND SPOTLIGHT SESSIONS
Meet the leading providers of digitization hardware, software, and
services to libraries, museums, archives, and other cultural
institutions. (If you are a vendor interested in exhibiting at Digital
Directions, contact Julie Martin, jmartin at nedcc.org.)

CONFERENCE FEE: $700 (includes a Networking luncheon on Day 1 and the
Conference Reception) 

CONFERENCE FEE DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE:
Students: $595
Groups of 3 or more from the same institution registering at the same
time: $595 each

ACCOMMODATIONS:
Westin San Diego
Discounted conference rate: $189 plus tax

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT DIGITAL DIRECTIONS including past
participants' comments, read a Web story about the 2008 conference:
http://www.nedcc.org/about/archives.ddfl.php

NEDCC IS GRATEFUL FOR SUPPORT FROM the National Endowment for the
Humanities for the Center's preservation services. Any views, findings,
conclusions, or recommendations expressed in this program do not
necessarily reflect those of the National Endowment for the Humanities.

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Wed Mar  4 23:40:26 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:40:26 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG:  NPR program on publicity rights (Obama poster)
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443924@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Forwarded from the digital-copyright list at UMUC: 

------------

Last Thursday, 2/26. Fresh Air on NPR had an hour long discussion on the question of use of a "famous" figure.  Context is the debate over the Obama Hope poster, but the context was broader and two core cases are cited which may offer insights into the matter.  ...  Title of show is Shepard Fairey, Inspiration or Infringement.  Greg Lastowka was interviewed....

Here is a link: 
http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13&prgDate=02-26-2009
&view=storyview  


From val.cartei at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 01:49:47 2009
From: val.cartei at gmail.com (Val Cartei)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:49:47 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Culture Geeks talk, March,
	25th: "eHive- the software revolution 	reaches the museum sector"
Message-ID: <e2022be20903050149j30acf110mce948c9d4ee60215@mail.gmail.com>

Culture Geeks talk, March, 25th: "eHive- the software revolution reaches the
museum sector"
where: Regency Town House, Brighton&Hove, UK
FREE

Hello all,

The next Culture Geeks free talk is only three weeks away. Jennifer Taylor
Moore, from Vernon System, will describe eHive, a new web based collection
management product (CMS), designed to be solely provided on a subscription
basis over the Internet.
Among many features, the system provides collections management functions to
participating museums without an existing CMS.

As usual, after the talk, there will be the chance to ask questions and get
involved in the discussion.

For more information or to book a place, sign-up on Upcoming or call Val at:
01273 206306.
You can also visit our blog (it's the top blog post) :
http://www.culturegeeks.org.uk.

Hope to see you all on March, 25th.

Val

-- 
Valentina Cartei
T +44 (0)796 6882820

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Thu Mar  5 03:50:18 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:50:18 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] FW: [IMAGELIB] New ACRL Image Resources Interest Group -
 call for participation
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B44393D@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

For those in the Seattle area:


________________________________
From: IMAGELIB [mailto:IMAGELIB at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joanna Burgess

Please join us for an informal get-together at the Association of College and Research Libraries Conference in Seattle to explore the possibility of forming a new ACRL Image Resources Interest Group. This group would provide a forum for ongoing discussion of the unique issues presented by interdisciplinary image resources in libraries.

Date:   Saturday, March 14, 2009

Time:   2:30-3:30

Place:  Convention Center Level 1 Pike Street Lobby, near Espresso Caffe Dior

Discussion topics for an Image Resources Interest Group could include the following:

*       Selecting and using subscription image databases

*       Choosing digital asset management and presentation tools

*       Working with images across systems and platforms

*       Supporting faculty research and teaching with images

*       Developing interdisciplinary image collections

*       Collaborating with academic departments and across library units to support image resource development and use

*       Image cataloging and metadata

*       Effective access to image resources through library web sites

*       Visual literacy

*       Image copyright

*       Digital capture

Please feel free to contact us with any questions, or if you are interested but unable to attend this informal event.

We're looking forward to seeing you in Seattle!

Joanna Burgess
Reed College
Portland, Oregon
burgessj at reed.edu<mailto:burgessj at reed.edu>

Denise Hattwig
University of Washington Libraries
Seattle, Washington
dhattwig at u.washington.edu<mailto:dhattwig at u.washington.edu>

From deborahwythe at hotmail.com  Thu Mar  5 04:50:34 2009
From: deborahwythe at hotmail.com (Deborah Wythe)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:50:34 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Brooklyn Museum collection API available
Message-ID: <BLU126-W27EBC0259A1A8A6C351B0FCFA40@phx.gbl>


For the developers among us and those interested in collection sharing --

The Technology staff at the Brooklyn Museum have just released our collection API so that outside programmers can query our data and create their own applications using it. For more information and links, see 
     http://tinyurl.com/bafq6u

Let's see what develops!

Deb Wythe
Brooklyn Museum
Digital Collections and Services

Brooklyn Museum Collection online is at 
     http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/collections/ 
including objects,
exhibitions installation views
     http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/exhibitions/
and archives/libraries materials
     http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/archives/

deborahwythe at hotmail.com 



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From TAMSEN_SCHWARTZMAN at exchange.fitnyc.edu  Thu Mar  5 07:22:52 2009
From: TAMSEN_SCHWARTZMAN at exchange.fitnyc.edu (TAMSEN SCHWARTZMAN)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:22:52 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook-Groups vs. Pages
In-Reply-To: <E9B4A32F532C4EFD83BAE045C0ABCA1A@Schwenkfelder.local>
References: <mailman.0.1236110402.28901.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
	<E9B4A32F532C4EFD83BAE045C0ABCA1A@Schwenkfelder.local>
Message-ID: <7121B84AEB05B442AD413970B7380C5490F7FBB3D4@FITMBX.fitsuny.edu>

Hi Jeanne,

I started MFIT's Facebook presence by starting a group. I quickly learned that there were benefits and limitations to having a group...all of which have been pointed out in the links to blogs people have sent you. I really love the way events are communicated to members of a group, but I have established a page (it is thriving), and now it has become tedious to post events and news in both places. I am considering merging the two since I am a department of one, but if we had more resources I might keep both going. The group definitely feels more intimate.  However, another down side is that the group is linked to my personal FB account. Some people may not want their work and private lives merging like that.


--
Tamsen Schwartzman
Museum Media Manager
The Museum at FIT, Room E116
Seventh Avenue at 27th Street
New York, NY 10001
212~217~4547  **  212~217~4561 fax
www.fitnyc.edu/museum
Visit our collections online at fashionmuseum.fitnyc.edu

Closes June 16: Seduction
Opens March 10: Muriel King: Artist of Fashion
Opens June 16: Isabel Toledo: Fashion from the Inside Out



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:13 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Facebook-Groups vs. Pages

Hello,

>From the small museum perspective:

The Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center has a Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pennsburg-PA/Schwenkfelder-Library-Heritage-ce
nter/21293856113?ref=ts

We don't have many fans. We have 33, as of today, March 2nd.
We have a small staff of 6; I'm unofficially the web guru, officially the
museum educator.

I find Facebook has been helpful to generate conversation among visitors and
staff. To me it's important to maintain a dialogue, no matter the means.  I
keep a calendar of events and occasionally post exhibit reception photos. No
one ever directly responds, but I've had families attend a program and
casually mentioned they saw us on Facebook. Someone has been reading it.

Our fans are parents who come to our family workshops, staff members and
members of the Schwenkfelder church (one of our constituencies). Most of our
"fans" come here on a regular basis. I recognize almost all of them. If it
doesn't establish new connections, it at least helps to maintain the
relationships we have.

In addition, having a Facebook page allows me to continue a dialogue about
using "new" technology especially if there are staff and volunteers who only
view the internet as a large search engine and a place to check email.


Thanks,

Rebecca


Rebecca Lawrence
Museum Educator
Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center
105 Seminary Street
Pennsburg PA 18073
(215) 679-3103
www.schwenkfelder.com




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From L.Will at willpowerinfo.co.uk  Thu Mar  5 10:42:25 2009
From: L.Will at willpowerinfo.co.uk (Leonard Will)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:42:25 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] INVITATION: Content Architecture - ISKO UK Conference,
	London, UK, 22-23 June 2009
Message-ID: <FL8xoUaR0BsJFAf6@willpowerinfo.co.uk>

============ INVITATION FOR REGISTRATION ================

"Content Architecture: Exploiting and Managing Diverse Resources"
ISKO UK 2009 Conference, London, UK, 22-23 June 2009

VENUE:  University College London
         Gower Street, London, WC1E 6BT

EARLY BIRD FEE (to 31st March): 135 GBP
                                 115 GBP (ISKO members, students)


The complete programme is now available at
<http://www.iskouk.org/conf2009/programme.htm>

We have 28 presentations, with speakers from ten countries. Topics
include semantic interoperability, image retrieval, multimedia
challenges, mapping and modelling.

As keynote speakers we have:

- Professor David Crystal, the renowned author, linguist and
broadcaster, talking about semantic targeting;

- Clifford Lynch, Director of the Coalition for Networked Information,
on the subject of e-Research and New Challenges in Knowledge Structuring

To take advantage of the early bird discount, register as soon as you
can on the conference site at <http://www.iskouk.org/conf2009/index.htm>

"Content Architecture: Exploiting and Managing Diverse Resources", is
the first biennial conference of the UK Chapter of ISKO (International
Society for Knowledge Organization).

=============================================================

-- 
Dr Leonard D Will      27 Calshot Way, ENFIELD, EN2 7BQ, UK
Treasurer at iskouk.org              Tel: +44 (0) 20 8372 0092
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From psully at magnes.org  Fri Mar  6 10:18:14 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:18:14 -0800
Subject: [MCN-L] MoMA's new site redsign featured in the NYTimes
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B6479DA@jlm-net.jlm.local>

Congratulations, Allegra! The new site looks great, and a fantastic
writeup in the NYTimes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/05/arts/design/05moma.html

 

Love the article's shout-out to the work Brooklyn Museum and
Indianapolis have made in this area (Rob and the rest of the team at
IMA, I am absolutely amazed at the new deaccession module on the IMA
website. I had to send a link to it to the staff yesterday:
http://www.imamuseum.org/explore/deaccessions )

 

One thing I'm really noticing is how mainstream Web 2.0-enabled /
visitor-driven / content interactive museum websites are becoming. Not
just on our side, but for the public and the press who are sitting up
and taking notice. I know many folks have been saying for a while that
these sorts of applications were going to become as expected by the
public as museum websites were in the 1990's. I'm finding the
progression absolutely fascinating. I hope that the availability of free
or cheap software will help the smaller institutions get on board
sooner, rather than later. Goodness knows that I actively pull pieces of
software from everywhere under the sun as part of our initiative to
deliver our content openly (soon... soon...).

 

Anyway, great job, you all! You're an inspiration J

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 


From annamaria.pomaswank at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 10:21:03 2009
From: annamaria.pomaswank at gmail.com (Annamaria Poma-Swank)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:21:03 +0100
Subject: [MCN-L] email address
Message-ID: <db3b78a00903061021v6497c0f9rb5b8e906c7fcbf74@mail.gmail.com>

I want everybody to know that my email pomaswank at rinascimento-digitale.it is
not active anylonger
please email to annamaria.pomaswank at gmail.com
DR. Annamaria poma Swank

From adele.hoarau at cr-reunion.fr  Fri Mar  6 16:00:46 2009
From: adele.hoarau at cr-reunion.fr (adele.hoarau at cr-reunion.fr)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 04:00:46 +0400
Subject: [MCN-L] AUTO : Adele HOARAU est absent(e). (renvoi 19/03/2009)
Message-ID: <OF8BA9B5FB.1C17DD0D-ON44257572.0000122B-44257572.0000122D@cr-reunion.fr>



Je suis absent(e) du bureau jusqu'au 19/03/2009

Je r?pondrai ? votre message d?s mon retour le 19 mars.
Pendant mon absence, pour ce qui concerne la documentation, vous pouvez
vous adresser ? ma coll?gue Alexandra Affidou.
Cordialement,


Remarque?: ceci est une r?ponse automatique ? votre message  "[MCN-L]
MoMA's new site redsign featured in the NYTimes" envoy? le 6/3/09 22:18:14.


C'est la seule notification que vous recevrez pendant l'absence de cette
personne.

From stanorchard at mac.com  Sat Mar  7 08:40:41 2009
From: stanorchard at mac.com (Stan Orchard)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:40:41 -0800
Subject: [MCN-L] social network CMS?
Message-ID: <EE8697D9-D76B-4199-9BE4-7787A2971AF8@mac.com>

This question has sorta come up before in different ways, but thought  
I'd ask again. Does anyone use one of the social network-type sites as  
a content management system? For example, we use Wetpaint for an  
internal wiki for our staff. We also use Wetpaint for a section of our  
site for our Science On Wheels teachers. We've had mixed results with  
both. But what if we moved our entire Web site to something like Ning  
or Wetpaint or some other such site? Alternative is to build our IT  
staff and create, maintain databases, Web servers, networks, etc. That  
means fewer resources (people) for creating content. Budgets being  
what they are, what if we used an outside source for the ENTIRE  
infrastructure and spent money on content creators? We also use Google  
calendars, Feedburner, Twitter, Facebook, Constant Contact, Upcoming.  
Google maps, etc. But the entire Web site? Lots of questions about  
ads, security, reliability, etc. Just wondering if any institutions do  
this?

Stan Orchard
Pacific Science Center

From simon.tanner at kcl.ac.uk  Thu Mar  5 09:01:37 2009
From: simon.tanner at kcl.ac.uk (Tanner, Simon)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:01:37 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Digital Futures Academy 2009: London - places still
	available
Message-ID: <49B00571.9080709@kcl.ac.uk>

Digital Futures Academy: from digitization to delivery

* London, UK:   27th April - 1st May 2009


King's College London is pleased to confirm there are still places 
available on the Digital Futures 5-day training event.
http://www.digitalconsultancy.net/digifutures/

Led by experts of international renown, Digital Futures focuses on the
creation, delivery and preservation of digital resources from cultural
and memory institutions. Lasting five days, Digital Futures is aimed at
managers and other practitioners from the library, museum, heritage and
cultural sectors looking to understand the strategic and management
issues of developing digital resources from digitisation to delivery.

Digital Futures will cover the following core areas:

            o Planning and management
            o Fund raising
            o Understanding the audience
            o Metadata - introduction and implementation
            o Copyright and intellectual property
            o Sustainability
            o Financial issues
            o Visual and image based resource creation and delivery
            o Implementing digital resources
            o Digital preservation

There will be visits to 2 institutions to see behind the scenes and
receive expert presentations. For Digital Futures London this will be
the National Gallery and The National Archives.

Digital Futures aims for no more than 25-30 delegates and every delegate
will have the opportunity to also spend one-to-one time with a Digital
Futures leader to discuss issues specific to them.
Digital Futures will issue a certificate of achievement to each delegate.

The Digital Futures leaders are:

* Simon Tanner - Director of King's Digital Consultancy Services, King's
College London
* Tom Clareson - Director for New Initiatives, PALINET

The leaders have over 30 years of experience in the digital realm
between them. Other experts will be invited to speak in their areas of
expertise.

What past delegates say about Digital Futures:

* "Excellent - I would recommend DF to anyone anticipating a 
digitization program"
* "The team was exceptionally knowledgeable, friendly and personable."
* "Excellent, informative and enjoyable. Thank you."
* "Thanks, it has been an invaluable experience."
* "A really useful course and great fun too!"


Digital Futures London

Cost: ?840 (VAT not charged, excludes accommodation)
Venue: King's College London
Dates: 27th April - 1st May 2009
Register: http://www.digitalconsultancy.net/digifutures/digireg.htm

Digital Futures is run by King's Digital Consultancy Services and the
Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London working in
co-operation with PALINET, USA.


-- 
Simon Tanner
Director,  King's Digital Consultancy Services,
King's College London,
Centre for Computing in the Humanities,
26-29 Drury Lane, London WC2B 5RL
Email: kdcs at kcl.ac.uk
http://www.kdcs.kcl.ac.uk/




From mcn-announce at mcn.edu  Sat Mar  7 13:55:39 2009
From: mcn-announce at mcn.edu (Museum Computer Network)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:55:39 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] MCN 2009: Call for Proposals
Message-ID: <19740415012840.79B1142538357530@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net>

CALL FOR PROPOSALS
 
MCN 37th Annual Conference, November 11-14, 2009, Portland, Oregon
Online proposal submissions will be accepted March 6-27, 2009
http://www.mcn.edu/conferences/index.asp?subkey=2266

The Museum Computer Network (MCN) will host its 2009 Conference with the theme 
"Museum Information, Museum Efficiency: Doing More with Less!" in lovely Portland, 
Oregon. The annual MCN meeting is one of the most important conferences serving 
international cultural heritage professionals, collections and new technologies.

The MCN 2009 program committee seeks innovative sessions (panels, papers, case 
studies, and workshops) that illustrate how institutions are effectively functioning 
and planning to function during the tough times ahead. We are looking for active, 
engaged individuals and groups of individuals thinking about and using best practices 
in the following areas:
 
  -  Serving institutional mission with cost-effective strategies in tough economic 
     times
  -  Making, managing, and delivering digital media in new and effective ways
  -  Building the future now: innovations coming soon to a museum near you!

Conference Topics
Prospective authors are invited to make submissions in areas including, but not 
limited to:

  -  Technology and Information Management Serving the Institutional Bottom Line
  -  Digital Readiness, Digital Accomplishments, Digital Accountability (Image 
     Capture, Digital Asset Management, Best Practices, Preservation, Access)
  -  Implementing Systems in Adverse Conditions
  -  Digital Convergence: Archives, Libraries, and Museums
  -  Doing More with Less
  -  Leadership, Sustainability, Accountability
  -  Social Media
  -  Superior Content, Superior Delivery

Innovative formats and interaction with audience are highly desirable and will 
be important factors, as will practicability, in the 2009 selection process.

Online proposal submissions will be accepted March 6-27, 2009
http://www.mcn.edu/conferences/index.asp?subkey=2266

If you have questions or need more information please contact Holly Witchey, 
MCN Program Chair, 216-707-2653, hwitchey at clevelandart.org or Christina DePaolo, 
MCN Conference Chair, 206 654-3165, christinad at seattleartmuseum.org.


From EDSONM at si.edu  Mon Mar  9 09:28:37 2009
From: EDSONM at si.edu (Edson, Michael)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:28:37 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Web Tech Guy and Angry Staff Person
Message-ID: <D951A5B5B11E794DBF41A403F83B707103209176@SI-ECL02.US.SINET.SI.EDU>

To my MCN colleagues I offer this animation: Web Tech Guy and Angry
Staff Person. May it soothe your pain. 

http://smithsonian20.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/web-t.html

 

 

Michael Edson

Director, Web and New Media Strategy

Smithsonian Institution, Office of the CIO

edsonm at si.edu <mailto:edsonm at si.edu>  | m: 202-445-9746 | o:
202-633-8447 

 

 

 

 


From J-Champagne at NGA.GOV  Mon Mar  9 09:39:55 2009
From: J-Champagne at NGA.GOV (Champagne, Joanna)
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:39:55 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Web Tech Guy and Angry Staff Person
In-Reply-To: <D951A5B5B11E794DBF41A403F83B707103209176@SI-ECL02.US.SINET.SI.EDU>
Message-ID: <C5DACCAB.DB30%J-Champagne@NGA.GOV>

Hello,

This is so super smart and fun!

Best,
Joanna


On 3/9/09 1:28 PM, "Edson, Michael" <EDSONM at si.edu> wrote:

> To my MCN colleagues I offer this animation: Web Tech Guy and Angry
> Staff Person. May it soothe your pain.
> 
> http://smithsonian20.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/web-t.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Michael Edson
> 
> Director, Web and New Media Strategy
> 
> Smithsonian Institution, Office of the CIO
> 
> edsonm at si.edu <mailto:edsonm at si.edu>  | m: 202-445-9746 | o:
> 202-633-8447 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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> Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
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From stanorchard at mac.com  Mon Mar  9 09:43:26 2009
From: stanorchard at mac.com (Stan Orchard)
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:43:26 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Web Tech Guy and Angry Staff Person
In-Reply-To: <D951A5B5B11E794DBF41A403F83B707103209176@SI-ECL02.US.SINET.SI.EDU>
References: <D951A5B5B11E794DBF41A403F83B707103209176@SI-ECL02.US.SINET.SI.EDU>
Message-ID: <39EA0B60-0C13-44A5-8B83-E34840B30BD1@mac.com>

Nailed it!

On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Edson, Michael wrote:

> To my MCN colleagues I offer this animation: Web Tech Guy and Angry
> Staff Person. May it soothe your pain.
>
> http://smithsonian20.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/web-t.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Edson
>
> Director, Web and New Media Strategy
>
> Smithsonian Institution, Office of the CIO
>
> edsonm at si.edu <mailto:edsonm at si.edu>  | m: 202-445-9746 | o:
> 202-633-8447
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum  
> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>
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From dzorich at mindspring.com  Mon Mar  9 09:49:57 2009
From: dzorich at mindspring.com (Diane M. Zorich)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:49:57 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Web Tech Guy and Angry Staff Person
In-Reply-To: <C5DACCAB.DB30%J-Champagne@NGA.GOV>
References: <C5DACCAB.DB30%J-Champagne@NGA.GOV>
Message-ID: <p06200709c5db05567ca6@[10.0.1.199]>

Folks,

I highly recommend that you set aside five minutes to watch this 
(whenever you need a brain break).  Mike initially presented it at 
the Webwise 2009 conference (he was asked by the session moderator, 
Nina Simon, to provide a "five minute provocation").    I observed a 
few squirming curators amidst a sea of heads that were nodding 
knowingly.

I would venture to say everyone has had this conversation in their 
museum (though not as wittily portrayed).

Diane



>Hello,
>
>This is so super smart and fun!
>
>Best,
>Joanna
>
>
>On 3/9/09 1:28 PM, "Edson, Michael" <EDSONM at si.edu> wrote:
>
>>  To my MCN colleagues I offer this animation: Web Tech Guy and Angry
>>  Staff Person. May it soothe your pain.
>>
>>  http://smithsonian20.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/web-t.html
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  Michael Edson
>>
>>  Director, Web and New Media Strategy
>>
>>  Smithsonian Institution, Office of the CIO
>>
>>  edsonm at si.edu <mailto:edsonm at si.edu>  | m: 202-445-9746 | o:
>>  202-633-8447
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
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>>  You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer
>>  Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>>
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>>  http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
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-- 
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Princeton, NJ 08542 USA
Voice: 609-252-1606
Fax: 609-252-1607
Email:  dzorich at mindspring.com
or dianezorich at comcast.net

From carmy at tcnj.edu  Mon Mar  9 10:04:46 2009
From: carmy at tcnj.edu (Dina Carmy)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:04:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [MCN-L] Web Tech Guy and Angry Staff Person
In-Reply-To: <39EA0B60-0C13-44A5-8B83-E34840B30BD1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1755521516.23717201236621886860.JavaMail.root@zcs.TCNJ.EDU>

Completely on Target! Many Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Orchard" <stanorchard at mac.com>
To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 1:43:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Web Tech Guy and Angry Staff Person

Nailed it!

On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Edson, Michael wrote:

> To my MCN colleagues I offer this animation: Web Tech Guy and Angry
> Staff Person. May it soothe your pain.
>
> http://smithsonian20.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/web-t.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Edson
>
> Director, Web and New Media Strategy
>
> Smithsonian Institution, Office of the CIO
>
> edsonm at si.edu <mailto:edsonm at si.edu>  | m: 202-445-9746 | o:
> 202-633-8447
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
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From folsom at lacma.org  Mon Mar  9 12:06:48 2009
From: folsom at lacma.org (Folsom, Diana)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:06:48 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] MoMA's new site redsign featured in the NYTimes
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B6479DA@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B6479DA@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <785EF3E8EEBF554DBBCC6909943D22B7083BD04D@saturn.lacma.org>

Congratulations, Allegra!!  Work mentioned in the article by these great
institutions -- MOMA, the Walker, IMA, Brooklyn, the Met -- give
inspiration to us all. 

Diana 

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Perian Sully
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:18 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] MoMA's new site redsign featured in the NYTimes

Congratulations, Allegra! The new site looks great, and a fantastic
writeup in the NYTimes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/05/arts/design/05moma.html

 

Love the article's shout-out to the work Brooklyn Museum and
Indianapolis have made in this area (Rob and the rest of the team at
IMA, I am absolutely amazed at the new deaccession module on the IMA
website. I had to send a link to it to the staff yesterday:
http://www.imamuseum.org/explore/deaccessions )

 

One thing I'm really noticing is how mainstream Web 2.0-enabled /
visitor-driven / content interactive museum websites are becoming. Not
just on our side, but for the public and the press who are sitting up
and taking notice. I know many folks have been saying for a while that
these sorts of applications were going to become as expected by the
public as museum websites were in the 1990's. I'm finding the
progression absolutely fascinating. I hope that the availability of free
or cheap software will help the smaller institutions get on board
sooner, rather than later. Goodness knows that I actively pull pieces of
software from everywhere under the sun as part of our initiative to
deliver our content openly (soon... soon...).

 

Anyway, great job, you all! You're an inspiration J

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 

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From psully at magnes.org  Mon Mar  9 12:28:16 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:28:16 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] social network CMS?
In-Reply-To: <EE8697D9-D76B-4199-9BE4-7787A2971AF8@mac.com>
References: <EE8697D9-D76B-4199-9BE4-7787A2971AF8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647A60@jlm-net.jlm.local>

Hmm. I've seen it done using Wordpress, which can be hosted with
Wordpress.com and then integrate with all of the other tools out there. 

And, of course, I'm now blanking on the three institutions I've seen
doing this, but Google came up with this interesting thread about
libraries using WP for their sites:
http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2008/05/27/wordpress-for-library
-websites/

~P

Perian Sully
Collections Information Manager
Web Programs Strategist
The Magnes
Berkeley, CA


-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Stan Orchard
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:41 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] social network CMS?

This question has sorta come up before in different ways, but thought  
I'd ask again. Does anyone use one of the social network-type sites as  
a content management system? For example, we use Wetpaint for an  
internal wiki for our staff. We also use Wetpaint for a section of our  
site for our Science On Wheels teachers. We've had mixed results with  
both. But what if we moved our entire Web site to something like Ning  
or Wetpaint or some other such site? Alternative is to build our IT  
staff and create, maintain databases, Web servers, networks, etc. That  
means fewer resources (people) for creating content. Budgets being  
what they are, what if we used an outside source for the ENTIRE  
infrastructure and spent money on content creators? We also use Google  
calendars, Feedburner, Twitter, Facebook, Constant Contact, Upcoming.  
Google maps, etc. But the entire Web site? Lots of questions about  
ads, security, reliability, etc. Just wondering if any institutions do  
this?

Stan Orchard
Pacific Science Center
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From MJohnson at historysanjose.org  Mon Mar  9 15:35:41 2009
From: MJohnson at historysanjose.org (Melissa Johnson)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:35:41 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Amusing phone call re website
Message-ID: <518A20175FE51D4B9EBBB9DB28F6E06E476742@athene.historysanjose.org>

Hello MCN listserve

 

I thought you all might enjoy this.  I have to admit this is the first phone call like this that I have received.

 

Last week I had a voicemail:

"I saw the article in the newspaper about your museum.  Ummm . . . could you put the entire content of the museum on the website?  Umm . . . you know, not everyone can make it out there."

 

This afternoon I answered the phone and had the following conversation.  (The umms, ahhhs, uh, huhs, and repetitive questions have been edited.)

 

Caller: When are you going to put everything in the museum online?

Me: Well, we have about 75,000 images so they aren't going to be online very soon due to lack of funding and staff reductions.

Caller: Because you know it's not that convenient to visit.

Me: Yes, I understand but its worth the trip we have beautiful park.  We do have five online exhibits with databases on our website.

Caller: But that looks like it barely scratches the surface.

Me: Yes, you are right.  We have a lot more in the collection.

Caller: But other museums have 10,000 images available online. It would be more convenient if there was more online. 

Me: Oh yes, I'm very familiar with online museum databases.  At this time, we don't have the funding.  It takes a lot of staff time to put the collection on the web.

Caller: So, I guess I shouldn't hold my breath.

Me: I wouldn't.

 

Melissa Johnson (banging her head on her desk)

Curator of Interactive Media

history|san jos?

 

See what's happening at HSJ: blog.historysanjose.org <http://blog.historysanjose.org/> 

 


From elizabeth.bruton at mhs.ox.ac.uk  Tue Mar 10 00:37:09 2009
From: elizabeth.bruton at mhs.ox.ac.uk (Elizabeth Bruton)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:37:09 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] social network CMS?
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647A60@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <EE8697D9-D76B-4199-9BE4-7787A2971AF8@mac.com>
	<AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647A60@jlm-net.jlm.local>
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From val.cartei at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 01:41:02 2009
From: val.cartei at gmail.com (Val Cartei)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:41:02 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] social network CMS?
In-Reply-To: <20090310083709.6B78F24351@webmail219.herald.ox.ac.uk>
References: <EE8697D9-D76B-4199-9BE4-7787A2971AF8@mac.com>
	<AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647A60@jlm-net.jlm.local>
	<20090310083709.6B78F24351@webmail219.herald.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <e2022be20903100241q33bf2bf8x1f5b58886057c3b2@mail.gmail.com>

Another alternative is eHive, which is an online CMS and s.network. It seems
like a really good idea if you want to avoid the costs of maintaining your
own CMS and we are considering it here at the Regency Town House. We have
also organised a talk in Brighton open to everyone, as we thought it might
 be of interest for other museums as well:
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/2021242/
Val Cartei
Digital Project Officer
Regency Town House

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Elizabeth Bruton <
elizabeth.bruton at mhs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> On a somewhat related note, there is a Wordpress-based social network
> platform
> by the name of Buddypress.  See http://buddypress.org/
>
> Elizabeth Bruton
>
> --
> Ms Elizabeth Bruton
> Web Officer, Museum of the History of Science, Oxford
> e: elizabeth.bruton at mhs.ox.ac.uk
> w: http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk
>
> In message <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647A60 at jlm-net.jlm.local>
> Museum
> Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu> writes:
> > Hmm. I've seen it done using Wordpress, which can be hosted with
> > Wordpress.com and then integrate with all of the other tools out there.
> >
> > And, of course, I'm now blanking on the three institutions I've seen
> > doing this, but Google came up with this interesting thread about
> > libraries using WP for their sites:
> > http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2008/05/27/wordpress-for-library
> > -websites/
> >
> > ~P
> >
> > Perian Sully
> > Collections Information Manager
> > Web Programs Strategist
> > The Magnes
> > Berkeley, CA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> > Stan Orchard
> > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:41 AM
> > To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> > Subject: [MCN-L] social network CMS?
> >
> > This question has sorta come up before in different ways, but thought
> > I'd ask again. Does anyone use one of the social network-type sites as
> > a content management system? For example, we use Wetpaint for an
> > internal wiki for our staff. We also use Wetpaint for a section of our
> > site for our Science On Wheels teachers. We've had mixed results with
> > both. But what if we moved our entire Web site to something like Ning
> > or Wetpaint or some other such site? Alternative is to build our IT
> > staff and create, maintain databases, Web servers, networks, etc. That
> > means fewer resources (people) for creating content. Budgets being
> > what they are, what if we used an outside source for the ENTIRE
> > infrastructure and spent money on content creators? We also use Google
> > calendars, Feedburner, Twitter, Facebook, Constant Contact, Upcoming.
> > Google maps, etc. But the entire Web site? Lots of questions about
> > ads, security, reliability, etc. Just wondering if any institutions do
> > this?
> >
> > Stan Orchard
> > Pacific Science Center
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Tue Mar 10 03:02:12 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:02:12 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Copying DVDs to personal computer -- RealNetworks
 sued by movie studios
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B4439B4@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Movie industry's shortsighted fight

Bob Barr

Tuesday, March 10, 2009    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/09/ED051680HG.DTL

...
" There is now unfolding in a federal court in San Francisco a lawsuit in which several major Hollywood movie studios are suing RealNetworks - a relatively small but successful company that develops and markets Internet communications technology - in an effort to prevent the company from selling a software product that simply enables consumers to copy their DVDs to their personal computers. If the studios are successful in this Goliath-against-David legal action, Edison's lesson in hard work will have been effectively reduced to, "genius is one percent inspiration, 99 percent permission." ...

From TAMSEN_SCHWARTZMAN at exchange.fitnyc.edu  Tue Mar 10 07:03:03 2009
From: TAMSEN_SCHWARTZMAN at exchange.fitnyc.edu (TAMSEN SCHWARTZMAN)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:03:03 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Amusing phone call re website
In-Reply-To: <518A20175FE51D4B9EBBB9DB28F6E06E476742@athene.historysanjose.org>
References: <518A20175FE51D4B9EBBB9DB28F6E06E476742@athene.historysanjose.org>
Message-ID: <7121B84AEB05B442AD413970B7380C5490F7FBB3EA@FITMBX.fitsuny.edu>

I can absolutely relate!! Thanks for sharing.

--
Tamsen Schwartzman
Museum Media Manager
The Museum at FIT, Room E116
Seventh Avenue at 27th Street
New York, NY 10001
212~217~4547  **  212~217~4561 fax
www.fitnyc.edu/museum
Visit our collections online at fashionmuseum.fitnyc.edu

Closes June 16: Seduction
Closes April 4: Muriel King: Artist of Fashion
Opens June 16: Isabel Toledo: Fashion from the Inside Out


-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Melissa Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:36 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Amusing phone call re website

Hello MCN listserve



I thought you all might enjoy this.  I have to admit this is the first phone call like this that I have received.



Last week I had a voicemail:

"I saw the article in the newspaper about your museum.  Ummm . . . could you put the entire content of the museum on the website?  Umm . . . you know, not everyone can make it out there."



This afternoon I answered the phone and had the following conversation.  (The umms, ahhhs, uh, huhs, and repetitive questions have been edited.)



Caller: When are you going to put everything in the museum online?

Me: Well, we have about 75,000 images so they aren't going to be online very soon due to lack of funding and staff reductions.

Caller: Because you know it's not that convenient to visit.

Me: Yes, I understand but its worth the trip we have beautiful park.  We do have five online exhibits with databases on our website.

Caller: But that looks like it barely scratches the surface.

Me: Yes, you are right.  We have a lot more in the collection.

Caller: But other museums have 10,000 images available online. It would be more convenient if there was more online.

Me: Oh yes, I'm very familiar with online museum databases.  At this time, we don't have the funding.  It takes a lot of staff time to put the collection on the web.

Caller: So, I guess I shouldn't hold my breath.

Me: I wouldn't.



Melissa Johnson (banging her head on her desk)

Curator of Interactive Media

history|san jos?



See what's happening at HSJ: blog.historysanjose.org <http://blog.historysanjose.org/>



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From psully at magnes.org  Tue Mar 10 07:11:40 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:11:40 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Copying DVDs to personal computer --
	RealNetworks sued by movie studios
In-Reply-To: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B4439B4@mailsrv.imj.org.il>
References: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B4439B4@mailsrv.imj.org.il>
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647AA9@jlm-net.jlm.local>

Good luck with that. After trying to figure out how to rip a DVD to AVI
last week (our own video), I learned that there're plenty of free
solutions out there.

~P

Perian Sully
Collections Information Manager
Web Programs Strategist
The Magnes
Berkeley, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Amalyah Keshet [akeshet at imj.org.il]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:02 AM
To: 'mcn-l at mcn.edu'
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Copying DVDs to personal computer --
RealNetworks sued by movie studios

Movie industry's shortsighted fight

Bob Barr

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/09/ED051680HG.D
TL

...
" There is now unfolding in a federal court in San Francisco a lawsuit
in which several major Hollywood movie studios are suing RealNetworks -
a relatively small but successful company that develops and markets
Internet communications technology - in an effort to prevent the company
from selling a software product that simply enables consumers to copy
their DVDs to their personal computers. If the studios are successful in
this Goliath-against-David legal action, Edison's lesson in hard work
will have been effectively reduced to, "genius is one percent
inspiration, 99 percent permission." ...
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Wed Mar 11 23:32:39 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:32:39 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Conference on the 100th Anniversary of the 1909
 Copyright Act
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B4439EA@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Brilliant.  And once again, TBAs (Those in the Berkeley Area) have all the fun...

________________________________
[Apologies for Cross-Posting]

Conference on the 100th Anniversary of the 1909 Copyright Act
April 30, 2009
Santa Clara University School of Law
http://law.scu.edu/hightech/copyright-conference.cfm

Sponsored by:
High Tech Law Institute, Santa Clara University School of Law, and
Berkeley Center for Law & Technology, University of California at Berkeley School of Law



Join two dozen distinguished scholars and practitioners to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the 1909 Act and its profound effect on U.S. and international copyright law.



The 1909 Copyright Act marked a revolution in U.S. copyright law.  The 1909 Act was the first to protect works upon publication with notice, without prior registration; the first to expressly recognize a right to prepare derivative works; and the first to expressly recognize the public domain.  The 1909 Act remained in effect for seven decades, during which time copyright law was repeatedly called upon to deal with the disruptive effect of new technologies, such as motion pictures, sound recordings, radio and television, photocopy machines, and computers. As a result, the 1909 Act had a significant influence on the copyright law we have today.



The conference program features two dozen copyright law experts, including keynote talks by David Nimmer (Of Counsel, Irell & Manella), William Patry (Senior Counsel, Google) and Marybeth Peters (Register of Copyrights, U.S. Copyright Office)



Attendance is free and open to the public, but registration is required.  CLE is available for a small fee.  For more information or to register, please visit http://law.scu.edu/hightech/copyright-conference.cfm
___

Eric Goldman
Associate Professor, Santa Clara University School of Law
Director, High Tech Law Institute
egoldman at gmail.com<mailto:egoldman at gmail.com>
Personal website: http://www.ericgoldman.org<http://www.ericgoldman.org/>
Blogs: http://blog.ericgoldman.org<http://blog.ericgoldman.org/> and http://blog.ericgoldman.org/personal/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ericgoldman


From akeshet at imj.org.il  Wed Mar 11 23:50:30 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:50:30 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] FW: stewart brand talk at berkeley - Rethinking Green
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B4439EB@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Like I said, for TBAs...


-----Original Message-----

for those local and interested -

UC Berkeley Regents Lecture, hosted by the Berkeley Center for New Media:

Rethinking Green: How Can Information
Replace Energy and Finesse the Biosphere?

Stewart Brand

Free and Open to the Public
Monday Mar 16, 7:30-9pm, Doors Open 7pm
Sibley Auditorium, Bechtel Engineering Center UC Berkeley

Legendary alternative thinker Stewart Brand is President of The Long Now Foundation and co-founder of Global Business Network. He created and edited the Whole Earth Catalog (National Book Award), and co-founded the Hackers Conference and The WELL.
His books include The Clock of the Long Now; How Buildings Learn; and The Media Lab.  A new book coming out this year is titled WHOLE EARTH
DISCIPLINE: An Ecopragmatist Manifesto.

For updated information and to join the mailing list, please visit:

http://bcnm.berkeley.edu

________________________________________

From toney at systemsplanning.com  Thu Mar 12 02:58:36 2009
From: toney at systemsplanning.com (Stephen Toney)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:58:36 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
Message-ID: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>

Systems Planning has just released MWeb Universal 2.0. MWeb Universal
provides integrated/federated searching of any number of databases on
any number of servers.

Since the databases are searched in their native form, there is no need
to export them or send them to a central site.

Databases may include any CMS, database systems like Oracle and MySQL,
and library MARC21 records in their native format.

Search features include keyword and phrase searching, boolean,
truncation, and the ability to restrict searches to specific fields.

Each site may customize the searches, displays, and interface.

Low price with no annual fee. Free support is included.

For more information and slideshow, please see
http://systemsplanning.com/mweb/universal.asp

All comments and inquiries are welcome!

-  
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning



From wjahsman at parkcitycon.com  Thu Mar 12 04:30:04 2009
From: wjahsman at parkcitycon.com (william jahsman)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MCN-L] ARRA for museums?
Message-ID: <604863.48423.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


As a consultant to The Leonardo museum in Salt Lake City, this forum helped me to identify a CRM solution (Explorer Systems) for our operations. I apologize if this subject has been raised--I skim the postings usually--but I'm interested to know if the museum community stands to benefit from the stimulus package and if so, how?
TIA,
Bill Jahsman
Park City Consulting Group
435-901-0200

From bwyman at denverartmuseum.org  Thu Mar 12 06:22:30 2009
From: bwyman at denverartmuseum.org (Bruce Wyman)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:22:30 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Copying DVDs to personal computer --
 RealNetworks sued by movie studios
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647AA9@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B4439B4@mailsrv.imj.org.il>
	<AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647AA9@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <p0624083cc5deca2c8b6b@[192.168.0.6]>

>Good luck with that. After trying to figure out how to rip a DVD to AVI
>last week (our own video), I learned that there're plenty of free
>solutions out there.

Not that I would condone or suggest one should rip DVDs, but if one 
were to do so for personal use and was curious what kinds of software 
are free and good for the task, you'd probably want to look at 
Handbrake - <http://handbrake.fr/>

-bw.
-- 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Bruce Wyman, Director of Technology
Denver Art Museum  /  100 W 14th Ave. Pkwy, Denver, CO 80204
office: 720.913.0159  /  fax: 720.913.0002
<bwyman at denverartmuseum.org>

From chuck.patch at gmail.com  Thu Mar 12 05:57:34 2009
From: chuck.patch at gmail.com (Chuck Patch)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:57:34 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
Message-ID: <639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stephen,

This is really interesting. The demo system choked up on me when I tried it
this morning, but I'll try it again some other time. I assume that the each
system that is to be part of the universal search has to have a database
connector installed that is part of this system? What is the connector?

My favorite slide, because it illustrates one of the problems involving
taxonomy, is the search for vase, which features a record for a Gibson
guitar. But this looks like you are inches away from being able to create a
PastPerfect Consortium.

Chuck

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Stephen Toney <toney at systemsplanning.com>wrote:

> Systems Planning has just released MWeb Universal 2.0. MWeb Universal
> provides integrated/federated searching of any number of databases on
> any number of servers.
>
> Since the databases are searched in their native form, there is no need
> to export them or send them to a central site.
>
> Databases may include any CMS, database systems like Oracle and MySQL,
> and library MARC21 records in their native format.
>
> Search features include keyword and phrase searching, boolean,
> truncation, and the ability to restrict searches to specific fields.
>
> Each site may customize the searches, displays, and interface.
>
> Low price with no annual fee. Free support is included.
>
> For more information and slideshow, please see
> http://systemsplanning.com/mweb/universal.asp
>
> All comments and inquiries are welcome!
>
> -
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
>
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
>
>
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From michael.yunkin at unlv.edu  Thu Mar 12 09:17:49 2009
From: michael.yunkin at unlv.edu (michael.yunkin at unlv.edu)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:17:49 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Copying DVDs to personal computer --
 RealNetworks sued by movie studios
In-Reply-To: <p0624083cc5deca2c8b6b@[192.168.0.6]>
Message-ID: <OFF99DD443.BA9E9A0D-ON88257577.005EA832-88257577.005F040F@unlv.edu>

mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu wrote on 03/12/2009 07:22:30 AM:

> >Good luck with that. After trying to figure out how to rip a DVD to AVI
> >last week (our own video), I learned that there're plenty of free
> >solutions out there.
> 
> Not that I would condone or suggest one should rip DVDs, but if one 
> were to do so for personal use and was curious what kinds of software 
> are free and good for the task, you'd probably want to look at 
> Handbrake - <http://handbrake.fr/>

...and Handbrake will often be useless without stripping the copy 
protection, which is easily done with DVDDecryptor <
http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/> . For creating backups of DVDs you already 
own -- if such things are legal where you live -- of course.

-Michael Yunkin
Web Content Manager/Usability Specialist
UNLV Libraries
Las Vegas, NV

From jtrant at archimuse.com  Thu Mar 12 09:41:32 2009
From: jtrant at archimuse.com (j trant)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:41:32 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Museums and the Web 2009: Papers on-line
Message-ID: <p06240868c5def920c098@[64.26.178.36]>


    Museums and the Web 2009
    the international conference for culture and heritage on-line
    April 15-18, 2009
    Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
    http://www.archimuse.com/mw2009/


The first group of papers to be presented at Museums and the Web 2009 
in Indianapolis (April 15-18, 2009) are now available on-line. To 
find them easily, browse the list of Speakers - at 
http://www.archimuse.com/mw2009/speakers / for the "paper" icon.  All 
MW2009 papers will be available on-line before the conference.

Writing papers is great contribution to our field. They record past 
experience, develop our collective knowledge, and enable our projects 
to build on each other. Having papers in advance also changes the 
nature of the conference. People come to Museums and the Web ready to 
dive into discussions, and conversations are much more productive! 
All past Museums and the Web (and ICHIM) papers are on-line and 
included in a  searchable Bibliography at 
http://conference.archimuse.com/researchForum

We hope you can delegates from more than twenty countries in 
Indianapolis for conversations about the challenges we all face 
moving institutions, collections and communities on-line.

jennifer and David.
-- 
------------
Jennifer Trant and David Bearman
Co-Chairs: Museums and the Web 2009	produced by
April 15-18, 2009, Indianapolis, Indiana	Archives & Museum Informatics
http://www.archimuse.com/mw2009/ 	158 Lee Avenue
email: mw2009 at archimuse.com		Toronto, Ontario, Canada
phone +1 416 691 2516 | fax +1 416 352-6025
-------------



From general at e-conservationline.com  Thu Mar 12 11:19:44 2009
From: general at e-conservationline.com (general at e-conservationline.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:19:44 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] e-conservation magazine - Issue no. 8 online
Message-ID: <b3a16e2aeba4ab457a6f2cb866c8ecad@e-conservationline.com>

Dear Colleagues,

We are pleased to announce that issue no. 8 of e_conservation magazine is
now online and available for free download from
http://www.e-conservationline.com/.

INDEX - Issue 8, February 2009

*News

Conference Reviews

Salt Weathering on Buildings and Stone Sculptures
22-24 October 2008, Copenhagen, Denmark
Reviewed by Anca Nicolaescu

Cultural Heritage: Applications on Conservation-Restoration
3 December 2008, Lisbon, Portugal
Reviewed by Rui Bordalo

Announcements

*Upcoming Events
February - March 2009

*Projects

Conservators without Borders: A Dynamic Approach to Archaeological
Conservation
By Dominica D?Arcangelo, Christie Pohl and Melina Smirniou

*Articles
Conservation of archaeological objects
Terracotta figurine in 'Pietrele'
By Cristina Georgescu

Conservation History
Aspects and Development of Conservator-Restorer?s Profession since WWII
By Hans-Christoph von Imhoff

*Case Study

The conservation of the exterior mural paintings of Coltea Church
A minimal intervention approach to aesthetic presentation
By Simona Patrascu and Teodora Poiata

*Book Reviews

Decolonizing Conservation. Caring for Maori Meeting Houses outside New
Zealand
Review by Daniel Cull

LACONA VII Proceedings. Lasers in the Conservation of Artworks
Review by Rui Bordalo

--
www.e-conservationline.com
general at e-conservationline.com

From toney at systemsplanning.com  Thu Mar 12 11:28:37 2009
From: toney at systemsplanning.com (Stephen Toney)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:28:37 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
	<639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1236886117.19248.102.camel@Dell>

Thanks for the feedback, Chuck. We were still updating the MWeb
Universal demo site when you tried to use it. It's working now at
http://systemsplanning.com/uni/

All comments are welcome!

Stephen
-  
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning


On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>  
> This is really interesting. The demo system choked up on me when I
> tried it this morning, but I'll try it again some other time. I assume
> that the each system that is to be part of the universal search has to
> have a database connector installed that is part of this system? What
> is the connector? 
> 
> My favorite slide, because it illustrates one of the problems
> involving taxonomy, is the search for vase, which features a record
> for a Gibson guitar. But this looks like you are inches away from
> being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Stephen Toney
> <toney at systemsplanning.com> wrote:
>         Systems Planning has just released MWeb Universal 2.0. MWeb
>         Universal
>         provides integrated/federated searching of any number of
>         databases on
>         any number of servers.
>         
>         Since the databases are searched in their native form, there
>         is no need
>         to export them or send them to a central site.
>         
>         Databases may include any CMS, database systems like Oracle
>         and MySQL,
>         and library MARC21 records in their native format.
>         
>         Search features include keyword and phrase searching, boolean,
>         truncation, and the ability to restrict searches to specific
>         fields.
>         
>         Each site may customize the searches, displays, and interface.
>         
>         Low price with no annual fee. Free support is included.
>         
>         For more information and slideshow, please see
>         http://systemsplanning.com/mweb/universal.asp
>         
>         All comments and inquiries are welcome!
>         
>         -
>         Stephen Toney
>         Systems Planning
>         toney at systemsplanning.com
>         http://systemsplanning.com
>         
>         MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems
>         Planning
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the
>         Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>         
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Thu Mar 12 22:58:36 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:58:36 +0200
Subject: =?windows-1256?Q?=FE=FEIP_SIG:__The_Kindle, _Privacy,
	_and_the_Right_to_Rea?= =?windows-1256?Q?d=FE=FE?=
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B43F8FC@mailsrv.imj.org.il>


A bit of background reading, in order to understand why that trip to Champaign/Urbana is so important.

As one commentator to the blog post, below, says "when I buy a copy [of a book]  it’s mine now. I should be free to read/loan/paper mache till my little girlie heart is content with my copy."  That right is called the First Sale Doctrine and it's there in the US Copyright Law.  And that right is being seriously threatened by DRM'ed e-books.

Amalyah Keshet

________________________________________
þ
http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/drm-free-for-you-and-me/#When:13:33:43Z

"Forcing consumers to jump through multiple hoops to read a
damn book is not a way to win customers in a down market. And
when vendors and distributors have a big fight and
disassociate with one another, forcing consumers to jump
through more hoops to attain the actual content they paid for,
it gets even more ridiculous. I don’t at any time expect that
Barnes and Noble would suddenly decide to come in to my house
and repossess all the books I own, yet ebook “owners” were
scrambling to redownload and potentially strip the DRM off
ebook files so that their books weren’t suddenly inaccessible
and unavailable."

________________________________________

From toney at systemsplanning.com  Fri Mar 13 06:03:03 2009
From: toney at systemsplanning.com (Stephen Toney)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:03:03 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
	<639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell>


On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>  
> This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.


Thanks, Chuck,

Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try 
http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.

The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
exporting, FTPing or Z39.50. 

MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.

Thanks!
Stephen
- 
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning




From waibelg at oclc.org  Fri Mar 13 07:29:38 2009
From: waibelg at oclc.org (Waibel,Guenter)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:29:38 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell><639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
	<1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell>
Message-ID: <AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>

Hi Stephen,

How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?

The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits segregated by database.

Cheers,

G?nter

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Toney
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
To: Chuck Patch
Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal


On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>  
> This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.


Thanks, Chuck,

Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try 
http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.

The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
exporting, FTPing or Z39.50. 

MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.

Thanks!
Stephen
- 
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning



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From toney at systemsplanning.com  Fri Mar 13 07:40:28 2009
From: toney at systemsplanning.com (Stephen Toney)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:40:28 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
	<639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
	<1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
Message-ID: <1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell>

Hello Gunter,

At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
we will add it to a future release.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Stephen

-  
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning


On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> 
> The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits segregated by database.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> G?nter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Toney
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> To: Chuck Patch
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >  
> > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> 
> 
> Thanks, Chuck,
> 
> Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try 
> http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> 
> The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> exporting, FTPing or Z39.50. 
> 
> MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> 
> Thanks!
> Stephen
> - 
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
> 
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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> 
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From waibelg at oclc.org  Fri Mar 13 08:40:37 2009
From: waibelg at oclc.org (Waibel,Guenter)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:40:37 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell><639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com><1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell><AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
	<1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell>
Message-ID: <AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D01160060@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>

Dear Stephen,

While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my question was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has been trying to get meaningful ranking of federated search results to work for the better part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely acknowledged that ranking is the Achilles heel of federated search, and even with the best technology, a limitation which can't be completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the early enthusiasm about federated searching as the solution to integrating datasources, especially at scale, has dissipated by now.
 
Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for a limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum collections. It's a great first step to see all the content in one place!

Cheers,  

G?nter 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: Waibel,Guenter
Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

Hello Gunter,

At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
we will add it to a future release.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Stephen

-  
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning


On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> 
> The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits segregated by database.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> G?nter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Toney
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> To: Chuck Patch
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >  
> > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> 
> 
> Thanks, Chuck,
> 
> Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try 
> http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> 
> The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> exporting, FTPing or Z39.50. 
> 
> MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> 
> Thanks!
> Stephen
> - 
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
> 
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
> 
> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> 
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> 
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> 
> 




From toney at systemsplanning.com  Fri Mar 13 10:36:12 2009
From: toney at systemsplanning.com (Stephen Toney)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:36:12 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D01160060@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
	<639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
	<1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
	<1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D01160060@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
Message-ID: <1236969372.17696.59.camel@Dell>

Thanks, Gunter,

You are right, of course, that ranking is essential for keyword searches
for information, as on Google. However, MWeb is different in two ways:

First, it is designed for searching for objects rather than information,
such as found in museum and library catalogs. If a user is searching for
"ruined mill", what ranking algorithm could determine which paintings
s/he wants most?

Second, MWeb's Advanced Search, boolean, phrase seaching, and subsets
allow the user to be specific about what objects are wanted, in order to
reduce the result set to a manageable size. These features have proven
useful in MWeb Universal installations of up to several million records.
For hundreds of millions, or billions, that's a different problem.

Of course, these features rely to some extent on the quality and
consistency of the data.

For library catalogs specifically, perhaps we should continue the dialog
offline as this is a museum community.


The dialog is much appreciated!
Stephen

-  
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning


On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 12:40 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> Dear Stephen,
> 
> While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my
> question was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has
> been trying to get meaningful ranking of federated search results to
> work for the better part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely
> acknowledged that ranking is the Achilles heel of federated search,
> and even with the best technology, a limitation which can't be
> completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the early enthusiasm about
> federated searching as the solution to integrating datasources,
> especially at scale, has dissipated by now.
>  
> Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for
> a limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum
> collections. It's a great first step to see all the content in one
> place!
> 
> Cheers,  
> 
> G?nter 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com] 
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: Waibel,Guenter
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> 
> Hello Gunter,
> 
> At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
> database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
> we will add it to a future release.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion!
> Stephen
> 
> -  
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
> 
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> > 
> > How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> > 
> > The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits segregated by database.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > G?nter
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Toney
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> > To: Chuck Patch
> > Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >  
> > > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, Chuck,
> > 
> > Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try 
> > http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> > to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> > 
> > The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> > PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> > exporting, FTPing or Z39.50. 
> > 
> > MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Stephen
> > - 
> > Stephen Toney
> > Systems Planning
> > toney at systemsplanning.com
> > http://systemsplanning.com
> > 
> > MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From Jay at GallerySystems.com  Fri Mar 13 11:41:05 2009
From: Jay at GallerySystems.com (Jay Hoffman)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:41:05 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell><639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com><1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell><AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org><1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D01160060@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
Message-ID: <81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8CD2F8D@gsml.gallerysystems.com>

Dear Stephen, G?nter et al,

First, congratulations to Stephen for making an interesting project available.

I would like to weigh in on this conversation, lest everyone reading it think that the statements about federated searching should be accepted without challenge.

I don't agree that one should assume that "enthusiasm about federated searching ... has dissipated by now". Maybe "for now" would be a more appropriate way to put it. There seems to be so many experts with so much experience in this field in the museum informatics space (this is another tongue-in-cheek statement).

There is still research and development taking place in federated/distributed searching and more interesting things to come, including ranking.

Stephen's project is an interesting step in the right direction and I think we should look at the benefits of the architecture before being dismissive. The notion that the technology might only be good for a "limited number of data sources" will also soon be dispelled.

Best,

Jay

Jay Hoffman, CEO
Gallery Systems
261 West 35th Street, 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
jay at gallerysystems.com
+1.646.733.2239


 



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Waibel,Guenter
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:41 PM
To: toney at systemsplanning.com
Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

Dear Stephen,

While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my question was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has been trying to get meaningful ranking of federated search results to work for the better part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely acknowledged that ranking is the Achilles heel of federated search, and even with the best technology, a limitation which can't be completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the early enthusiasm about federated searching as the solution to integrating datasources, especially at scale, has dissipated by now.
 
Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for a limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum collections. It's a great first step to see all the content in one place!

Cheers,  

G?nter 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: Waibel,Guenter
Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

Hello Gunter,

At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
we will add it to a future release.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Stephen

-  
Stephen Toney
Systems Planning
toney at systemsplanning.com
http://systemsplanning.com

MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning


On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> 
> The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits segregated by database.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> G?nter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Toney
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> To: Chuck Patch
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >  
> > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> 
> 
> Thanks, Chuck,
> 
> Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try 
> http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> 
> The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> exporting, FTPing or Z39.50. 
> 
> MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> 
> Thanks!
> Stephen
> - 
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
> 
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org  Fri Mar 13 11:50:10 2009
From: Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org (Christina DePaolo)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:50:10 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
Message-ID: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>

Hi,
I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving tweeting for SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am fuzzy about. I am following everyone who is following us, but it is a bit overwhelming.  How do you chose who to follow? Looking at museum's feeds I see a variety of solutions.

I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but follow a targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks like a good option for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How do you decide which individuals to follow? Not so concerned about institutions because that is easy to do/resolve.

Thank you. Christina



From chuck.patch at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 11:57:08 2009
From: chuck.patch at gmail.com (Chuck Patch)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:57:08 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
In-Reply-To: <81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8CD2F8D@gsml.gallerysystems.com>
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell>
	<639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com>
	<1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
	<1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D01160060@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
	<81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8CD2F8D@gsml.gallerysystems.com>
Message-ID: <639de3630903131257j514a8506x9b4450526babf2a@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Jay. And let's not forget that the market this demonstration
piece (PastPerfect users) showcases is one where federated search is
something both truly unusual and highly beneficial given the frequency with
which these collections are small and not easily accessible.

Chuck Patch

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jay Hoffman <Jay at gallerysystems.com> wrote:

> Dear Stephen, G?nter et al,
>
> First, congratulations to Stephen for making an interesting project
> available.
>
> I would like to weigh in on this conversation, lest everyone reading it
> think that the statements about federated searching should be accepted
> without challenge.
>
> I don't agree that one should assume that "enthusiasm about federated
> searching ... has dissipated by now". Maybe "for now" would be a more
> appropriate way to put it. There seems to be so many experts with so much
> experience in this field in the museum informatics space (this is another
> tongue-in-cheek statement).
>
> There is still research and development taking place in
> federated/distributed searching and more interesting things to come,
> including ranking.
>
> Stephen's project is an interesting step in the right direction and I think
> we should look at the benefits of the architecture before being dismissive.
> The notion that the technology might only be good for a "limited number of
> data sources" will also soon be dispelled.
>
> Best,
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Hoffman, CEO
> Gallery Systems
> 261 West 35th Street, 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10001
> jay at gallerysystems.com
> +1.646.733.2239
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Waibel,Guenter
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:41 PM
> To: toney at systemsplanning.com
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
>
> Dear Stephen,
>
> While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my question
> was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has been trying to
> get meaningful ranking of federated search results to work for the better
> part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely acknowledged that ranking
> is the Achilles heel of federated search, and even with the best technology,
> a limitation which can't be completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the
> early enthusiasm about federated searching as the solution to integrating
> datasources, especially at scale, has dissipated by now.
>
> Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for a
> limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum collections.
> It's a great first step to see all the content in one place!
>
> Cheers,
>
> G?nter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: Waibel,Guenter
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
>
> Hello Gunter,
>
> At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
> database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
> we will add it to a future release.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!
> Stephen
>
> -
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
>
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> >
> > The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits
> segregated by database.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > G?nter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Toney
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> > To: Chuck Patch
> > Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >
> > > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Chuck,
> >
> > Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try
> > http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> > to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> >
> > The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> > PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> > exporting, FTPing or Z39.50.
> >
> > MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Stephen
> > -
> > Stephen Toney
> > Systems Planning
> > toney at systemsplanning.com
> > http://systemsplanning.com
> >
> > MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum
> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
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From david at yakimavalleymuseum.org  Fri Mar 13 12:22:38 2009
From: david at yakimavalleymuseum.org (David Lynx)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:22:38 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
In-Reply-To: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
Message-ID: <C5E00E9E.9107%david@yakimavalleymuseum.org>

I am tweeting, but I am not following everyone who is following us.  I have
chosen to follow two so far - the state visitor's tweet, and the regional
tourism ambassador. One of the things I am interested in is other events
that would assist or conflict with ours.

On 3/13/09 12:50 PM, "Christina DePaolo" <Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving tweeting for
> SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am fuzzy about. I am
> following everyone who is following us, but it is a bit overwhelming.  How do
> you chose who to follow? Looking at museum's feeds I see a variety of
> solutions.
> 
> I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but follow a
> targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks like a good option
> for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How do you decide which
> individuals to follow? Not so concerned about institutions because that is
> easy to do/resolve.
> 
> Thank you. Christina
> 
> 
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---------------------------------------------
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Yakima Valley Museum (509)248-0747
www.yakimavalleymuseum.org




From stanorchard at mac.com  Fri Mar 13 12:48:15 2009
From: stanorchard at mac.com (Stan Orchard)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:48:15 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
In-Reply-To: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
References: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
Message-ID: <8594D649-DFE8-47F0-8EE8-6949DF362B61@mac.com>

I don't follow everyone who follows us at Pacific Science Center. I  
always check who they are and eliminate thusly:

1. If they hide their tweets, don't follow.
2. If they've never tweeted, don't follow.
3. Spammers...block 'em.
4. Read their last 20 or so tweets. If they tweet maybe once a week,  
probably won't follow.
5. If they tweet mostly about things totally unrelated to our area, or  
nothing related to education, science, etc, probably won't follow.
6. I use Twhirl so I set up a number of searches and integrate the  
results into my twitter stream (other clients do this as well). That  
way I find people I'm not following who are talking about us or some  
of our interests. I may then follow them.

Strongly recommend using a Twitter client (Twhirl, Tweetdeck,  
Twitterific, etc.) There are MANY.

Stan Orchard
Web Publisher
Pacific Science Center
http://twitter.com/PacSci
http://twitter.com/ScienceCalendar
http://twitter.com/StanOrchard


On Mar 13, 2009, at 3/13/0912:50 PM, Christina DePaolo wrote:

> Hi,
> I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving  
> tweeting for SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am  
> fuzzy about. I am following everyone who is following us, but it is  
> a bit overwhelming.  How do you chose who to follow? Looking at  
> museum's feeds I see a variety of solutions.
>
> I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but  
> follow a targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks  
> like a good option for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How  
> do you decide which individuals to follow? Not so concerned about  
> institutions because that is easy to do/resolve.
>
> Thank you. Christina
>
>
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From tim.roberts at artsoz.com.au  Fri Mar 13 12:51:51 2009
From: tim.roberts at artsoz.com.au (Tim Roberts www.artsoz.com.au)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:51:51 +1100
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
In-Reply-To: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
References: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
Message-ID: <5F435CC30C4E4EFEB8007B16D27840D8@artsoz4>

Hi Christina

You may find this article of interest as it speaks to exactly some of those
issues.

10 Twitter Tips for Nonprofit Organizations by Heather Mansfield 
Published March 11, 2009 @ 06:42AM PST

http://nonprofits.change.org/

Nonprofits 2.0 and change.org are both good resources all round.

Regards


Tim Roberts
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Department for Culture and the Arts, Arts Queensland, Arts SA and Arts NT
commissioned Roger Tomlinson and Tim Roberts to revise and update the book
Boxing Clever for Australia. 
Boxing Clever originally published by Arts Council England in 1993,
discusses ticketing and its greater potential to facilitate sophisticated
arts marketing. 
The new book FULL HOUSE: Turning Data into Audiences was published in print
in Australia in November 2006 followed by an edition commissioned for New
Zealand  by Creative New Zealand, in December 2006. Editions in other
markets and languages are in development for 2008/9. 
 
Available for purchase online now  

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Christina DePaolo
Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2009 6:50 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?

Hi,
I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving tweeting
for SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am fuzzy about. I am
following everyone who is following us, but it is a bit overwhelming.  How
do you chose who to follow? Looking at museum's feeds I see a variety of
solutions.

I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but follow a
targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks like a good
option for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How do you decide which
individuals to follow? Not so concerned about institutions because that is
easy to do/resolve.

Thank you. Christina


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From kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org  Fri Mar 13 13:02:39 2009
From: kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org (Kaia Landon)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:02:39 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
In-Reply-To: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
References: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
Message-ID: <d499bb7b0903131402k42f1ee66x913170524cc926f7@mail.gmail.com>

 My basic criteria is whether they are interesting or contribute something
of value to me/the museum, although it isn't especially targeted.

I have a pretty liberal policy on who we follow:
most organizations
local public figures (John McCain, for instance)
local people
non-local people who are obviously interested in
museums/archives/library/arts etc.
non-local people who are interested in marketing and/or social media

I don't follow:
a ton of artists (this is the history museum I'm tweeting for -- I'd feel
differently about following artists if I were tweeting for a contemporary
art museum)
non-local musicians
random people from China (and it seems they're always from China) who claim
they're into social media but are mostly just spammers

Any of the above might be changed by content on someone's profile, however,
or what they tweet (i.e., a non-local musician might often tweet interesting
things about the arts, instead of a just a long stream of junk meant to
promote their band).

Kaia

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Christina DePaolo <
Christinad at seattleartmuseum.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving tweeting
> for SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am fuzzy about. I am
> following everyone who is following us, but it is a bit overwhelming.  How
> do you chose who to follow? Looking at museum's feeds I see a variety of
> solutions.
>
> I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but follow a
> targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks like a good
> option for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How do you decide which
> individuals to follow? Not so concerned about institutions because that is
> easy to do/resolve.
>
> Thank you. Christina
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From waibelg at oclc.org  Fri Mar 13 13:48:55 2009
From: waibelg at oclc.org (Waibel,Guenter)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:48:55 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
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Anything that moves us closer to a methodology for making unified discovery across different collections a routine reality is worth celebrating. I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck on that vision, and am delighted to see what MWeb has done, and much looking forward to future developments Jay hints at. These projects and products demonstrate the immense power of bringing data together, and hopefully will motivate the museum community as a whole to take a long hard look. If federated search turns out to be a useful tool to achieving the vision of searching across many museum collections at a time, I'm on board.

At the same time, I think it is also worth having a look at what others who have pursued this path have to say. Here are some of the main issues with federated searching as gleaned from the library experience with it. At first glance, these seem to apply in a museum context as well.

* You usually have to wait until all targets respond, so your wait-time for a search result can be fairly long in a federated search.
* You usually only receive a specific subset of records with hits from each target at a time.
* Since you only have a subset of actual records with hits in hand, you are fairly restricted in your ability to offer faceted browsing.
* You usually have to depend on the ranking the original target provides you, and to harmonize rankings between results from different targets is a challenge. To put it simply, it's difficult to assess whether the first hit from database A is as important as the first hit in database B, or whether the first 5 hits from database A are much more relevant than the first hit from database B. That means you are usually restricted to just show hits segregated by the different databases, not integrated into a single run-on search result.

In the UK, the national museums and galleries have just launched Creative Spaces (http://bm.nmolp.org/creativespaces/), which also relies on federated search, and there have been discussions about the pros and cons of federated search in that context as well.

I'd be happy to learn more about how these issues can be addressed from Stephen and Jay. For those who have the patience to wade into another community's discourse to learn lessons for our own, I'll recommend this article by Jonathan Rochkind, which gives a good background to what I've tried to summarize above: 

http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6413442.html

Cheers,

G?nter

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Chuck Patch
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:57 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

I agree with Jay. And let's not forget that the market this demonstration
piece (PastPerfect users) showcases is one where federated search is
something both truly unusual and highly beneficial given the frequency with
which these collections are small and not easily accessible.

Chuck Patch

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jay Hoffman <Jay at gallerysystems.com> wrote:

> Dear Stephen, G?nter et al,
>
> First, congratulations to Stephen for making an interesting project
> available.
>
> I would like to weigh in on this conversation, lest everyone reading it
> think that the statements about federated searching should be accepted
> without challenge.
>
> I don't agree that one should assume that "enthusiasm about federated
> searching ... has dissipated by now". Maybe "for now" would be a more
> appropriate way to put it. There seems to be so many experts with so much
> experience in this field in the museum informatics space (this is another
> tongue-in-cheek statement).
>
> There is still research and development taking place in
> federated/distributed searching and more interesting things to come,
> including ranking.
>
> Stephen's project is an interesting step in the right direction and I think
> we should look at the benefits of the architecture before being dismissive.
> The notion that the technology might only be good for a "limited number of
> data sources" will also soon be dispelled.
>
> Best,
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Hoffman, CEO
> Gallery Systems
> 261 West 35th Street, 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10001
> jay at gallerysystems.com
> +1.646.733.2239
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Waibel,Guenter
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:41 PM
> To: toney at systemsplanning.com
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
>
> Dear Stephen,
>
> While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my question
> was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has been trying to
> get meaningful ranking of federated search results to work for the better
> part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely acknowledged that ranking
> is the Achilles heel of federated search, and even with the best technology,
> a limitation which can't be completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the
> early enthusiasm about federated searching as the solution to integrating
> datasources, especially at scale, has dissipated by now.
>
> Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for a
> limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum collections.
> It's a great first step to see all the content in one place!
>
> Cheers,
>
> G?nter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: Waibel,Guenter
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
>
> Hello Gunter,
>
> At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
> database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
> we will add it to a future release.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!
> Stephen
>
> -
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
>
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> >
> > The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits
> segregated by database.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > G?nter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Toney
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> > To: Chuck Patch
> > Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >
> > > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Chuck,
> >
> > Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try
> > http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> > to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> >
> > The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> > PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> > exporting, FTPing or Z39.50.
> >
> > MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Stephen
> > -
> > Stephen Toney
> > Systems Planning
> > toney at systemsplanning.com
> > http://systemsplanning.com
> >
> > MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> >
> >
> >
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From psully at magnes.org  Fri Mar 13 14:38:50 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:38:50 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
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I also don't follow everyone who follows us. I look for the following:

- People (general public) with an interest in history, museums, culture,
Jewish content, and sometimes technology. I follow a lot of folks here
from MCN and elsewhere using the Magnes feed (@magnes), instead of my
personal one - mostly because I don't use my personal one very often. 
- Museums, archives, libraries, and various cultural centers
- Certain news feeds that relate to our content

I do NOT follow:
- spammers
- individuals who post nothing but really mundane thoughts (the "I'm in
the bathroom," "making a sandwich for dinner" sorts)
- individuals who are following 20,000 people
- people who lock their posts (I come across some museums or cultural
centers who do this. WHY???)
- people whose content or interests have nothing to do with ours (they
might have a fascinating set of posts, but I don't need to read about
the minutia of hedgetrimming or aquarium maintenance on my institutional
feed).
- people or institutions who only post marketing materials

When it comes to following individuals, I like knowing what our public
might be thinking about, and so try to direct my tweets to coincide with
their interests. But there are only so many hours in the day, and so I
can't afford to be exceptionally liberal with who I choose to follow.

~P


Perian Sully
Collections Information Manager
Web Programs Strategist
The Magnes
Berkeley, CA



On Mar 13, 2009, at 3/13/0912:50 PM, Christina DePaolo wrote:

> Hi,
> I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving  
> tweeting for SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am  
> fuzzy about. I am following everyone who is following us, but it is  
> a bit overwhelming.  How do you chose who to follow? Looking at  
> museum's feeds I see a variety of solutions.
>
> I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but  
> follow a targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks  
> like a good option for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How  
> do you decide which individuals to follow? Not so concerned about  
> institutions because that is easy to do/resolve.
>
> Thank you. Christina
>
>
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From Jay at GallerySystems.com  Fri Mar 13 16:03:17 2009
From: Jay at GallerySystems.com (Jay Hoffman)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:03:17 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
References: <1236855516.19248.19.camel@Dell><639de3630903120657y52c2aa6w1f494eb203f09e57@mail.gmail.com><1236952984.17696.14.camel@Dell><AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D0116005A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org><1236958828.17696.35.camel@Dell><AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3D01160060@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org><81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8CD2F8D@gsml.gallerysystems.com><639de3630903131257j514a8506x9b4450526babf2a@mail.gmail.com>
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G?nter -

In some respects you are right. I believe the technology has still only scratched the surface. I have been working with distributed technology searching of museum data for a few years now and offer the following from my own experience:

As you know, museum data are different from library data in their level of uniqueness, complexity, physical attributes such as medium and technique, conservation data, exhibitions history, imaging and other attributes. The fact that the success rate or level of achievement falls short doesn't mean the technology should be dismissed. We should take a positive approach here, not a critical one. Other architectures also have their shortcomings, but that doesn't mean we should be shooting holes in them while those pursuing them work on making them useful. All of the items you have cited could be problems from your point of view. That is fine, but your points are a bit near-sighted. Just because Star-Trek-level, multi-lingual, thesaurus assisted, ranked, easily discoverable (without harvesting), near-real-time updated database searching hasn't been achieved yet through distributed means should not imply that it can't eventually do all those things.

In an attempt to not lose sight of the original project, Chuck's comment is also important. There are probably a lot of regional, domain specific groups or other affinities that could benefit from distributed technology today and can take advantage of it as is.

Based on this thread, I would like to invite any museums/individuals interested in participation in distributed searching to get in contact with me. We are forging ahead with our eMuseum Network project. I believe a cooperative effort between Gallery Systems' eMuseum Network project, Stephen's MWeb project and other such projects are worth pursuing.

Best regards,

Jay




-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Waibel,Guenter
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:49 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

Anything that moves us closer to a methodology for making unified discovery across different collections a routine reality is worth celebrating. I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck on that vision, and am delighted to see what MWeb has done, and much looking forward to future developments Jay hints at. These projects and products demonstrate the immense power of bringing data together, and hopefully will motivate the museum community as a whole to take a long hard look. If federated search turns ou??t to be a useful tool to achieving the vision of searching across many museum collections at a time, I'm on board.

At the same time, I think it is also worth having a look at what others who have pursued this path have to say. Here are some of the main issues with federated searching as gleaned from the library experience with it. At first glance, these seem to apply in a museum context as well.

* You usually have to wait until all targets respond, so your wait-time for a search result can be fairly long in a federated search.
* You usually only receive a specific subset of records with hits from each target at a time.
* Since you only have a subset of actual records with hits in hand, you are fairly restricted in your ability to offer faceted browsing.
* You usually have to depend on the ranking the original target provides you, and to harmonize rankings between results from different targets is a challenge. To put it simply, it's difficult to assess whether the first hit from database A is as important as the first hit in database B, or whether the first 5 hits from database A are much more relevant than the first hit from database B. That means you are usually restricted to just show hits segregated by the different databases, not integrated into a single run-on search result.

In the UK, the national museums and galleries have just launched Creative Spaces (http://bm.nmolp.org/creativespaces/), which also relies on federated search, and there have been discussions about the pros and cons of federated search in that context as well.

I'd be happy to learn more about how these issues can be addressed from Stephen and Jay. For those who have the patience to wade into another community's discourse to learn lessons for our own, I'll recommend this article by Jonathan Rochkind, which gives a good background to what I've tried to summarize above: 

http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6413442.html

Cheers,

G?nter

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Chuck Patch
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:57 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

I agree with Jay. And let's not forget that the market this demonstration
piece (PastPerfect users) showcases is one where federated search is
something both truly unusual and highly beneficial given the frequency with
which these collections are small and not easily accessible.

Chuck Patch

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jay Hoffman <Jay at gallerysystems.com> wrote:

> Dear Stephen, G?nter et al,
>
> First, congratulations to Stephen for making an interesting project
> available.
>
> I would like to weigh in on this conversation, lest everyone reading it
> think that the statements about federated searching should be accepted
> without challenge.
>
> I don't agree that one should assume that "enthusiasm about federated
> searching ... has dissipated by now". Maybe "for now" would be a more
> appropriate way to put it. There seems to be so many experts with so much
> experience in this field in the museum informatics space (this is another
> tongue-in-cheek statement).
>
> There is still research and development taking place in
> federated/distributed searching and more interesting things to come,
> including ranking.
>
> Stephen's project is an interesting step in the right direction and I think
> we should look at the benefits of the architecture before being dismissive.
> The notion that the technology might only be good for a "limited number of
> data sources" will also soon be dispelled.
>
> Best,
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Hoffman, CEO
> Gallery Systems
> 261 West 35th Street, 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10001
> jay at gallerysystems.com
> +1.646.733.2239
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Waibel,Guenter
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:41 PM
> To: toney at systemsplanning.com
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
>
> Dear Stephen,
>
> While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my question
> was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has been trying to
> get meaningful ranking of federated search results to work for the better
> part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely acknowledged that ranking
> is the Achilles heel of federated search, and even with the best technology,
> a limitation which can't be completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the
> early enthusiasm about federated searching as the solution to integrating
> datasources, especially at scale, has dissipated by now.
>
> Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for a
> limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum collections.
> It's a great first step to see all the content in one place!
>
> Cheers,
>
> G?nter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: Waibel,Guenter
> Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
>
> Hello Gunter,
>
> At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
> database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
> we will add it to a future release.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!
> Stephen
>
> -
> Stephen Toney
> Systems Planning
> toney at systemsplanning.com
> http://systemsplanning.com
>
> MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
> >
> > The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits
> segregated by database.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > G?nter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Toney
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
> > To: Chuck Patch
> > Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >
> > > This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
> > > being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Chuck,
> >
> > Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try
> > http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
> > to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
> >
> > The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
> > PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
> > exporting, FTPing or Z39.50.
> >
> > MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Stephen
> > -
> > Stephen Toney
> > Systems Planning
> > toney at systemsplanning.com
> > http://systemsplanning.com
> >
> > MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
> >
> >
> >
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sun Mar 15 04:16:40 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:16:40 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG:  Creative Commons launches CC0,
 a new legal tool designed to help expand the public domain
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Creative Commons has launched CC0:

http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/13304

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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sun Mar 15 04:23:40 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:23:40 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] =?windows-1255?q?FW=3A_=FE=FEFW=3A_Lecture_on_the_Kindle?=
 =?windows-1255?q?=2C_Privacy_and_the_Right_to_Read?=
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A1A@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Resending, as this didn't show up (originally sent Friday 13th, which may explain why not):

----------------------------------------

Okay, Those in the Berkeley Area: now it's your turn to be envious of Richard Urban!

Amalyah Keshet

________________________________________
?
(forwarded)

I realize this is somewhat hard for most folks to get to, but if you happen to be in Champaign/Urbana in early April, this talk might be of interest.  I believe the Center for Advanced Study has been trying to make audio capture of these presentations available, if not live, then after the event.

Amazon Kindle and the Right to Read: Privacy and Property in the Late Age of Print / Ted Striphas Tuesday, April 07, 2009 4:00 pm Knight Auditorium, Spurlock Museum 600 South Gregory Street Urbana, IL

Since its release in November 2007, the Amazon Kindle has emerged as a?and perhaps the?leading portable electronic reading device.  Widely touted for its unique screen, capacious storage, and wireless content delivery, Kindle has prompted both enthusiasts and critics to wonder if it will eventually ?outbook the [printed] book? (to quote Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos).  This presentation will not settle the matter, nor will it try to.  Instead, it will focus on two key Kindle features: its two-way communications capability; and the ?read to me? text-to-speech feature, new to Kindle 2.  The purpose of this presentation will be to show how these features have empowered Amazon.com and the Author?s Guild to assert extraordinary rights over, respectively, the content and form of reading.  In doing so, these entities render ?the right to read,? which Richard Stallman identified over a decade ago, as increasingly alien and, indeed, alienable.

Cosponsored by: Department of History, Illinois Informatics Institute Additional support from College of Media, WILL Public Media

More information on this lecture series is available at:
http://www.cas.uiuc.edu/events/ViewProgram.aspx?Guid=3C936E61-BE27-480B-8574-0ABFD2AE8073


Jerome McDonough, Asst. Professor
Graduate School of Library & Information Science University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
501 E. Daniel Street, Room 202
Champaign, IL 61820
(217) 244-5916
jmcdonou at uiuc.edu<mailto:jmcdonou at uiuc.edu>






From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sun Mar 15 04:24:32 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:24:32 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] =?windows-1255?q?IP_SIG=3A__The_Kindle=2C_Privacy=2C_and_?=
 =?windows-1255?q?the_Right_to_Read=FE=FE?=
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A1B@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

 
A bit of background reading, in order to understand why that trip to Champaign/Urbana is so important. 

As one commentator to the blog post, below, says "when I buy a copy [of a book]  it?s mine now. I should be free to read/loan/paper mache till my little girlie heart is content with my copy."  That right is called the First Sale Doctrine and it's there in the US Copyright Law.  And that right is being seriously threatened by DRM'ed e-books.

Amalyah Keshet

________________________________________
?
http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/drm-free-for-you-and-me/#When:13:33:43Z

"Forcing consumers to jump through multiple hoops to read a damn book is not a way to win customers in a down market. And when vendors and distributors have a big fight and disassociate with one another, forcing consumers to jump through more hoops to attain the actual content they paid for, it gets even more ridiculous. I don?t at any time expect that Barnes and Noble would suddenly decide to come in to my house and repossess all the books I own, yet ebook ?owners? were scrambling to redownload and potentially strip the DRM off ebook files so that their books weren?t suddenly inaccessible and unavailable."

________________________________________

From marty at fsu.edu  Sun Mar 15 04:42:07 2009
From: marty at fsu.edu (Paul Marty)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:42:07 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L]
 =?utf-8?q?IP_SIG=3A__The_Kindle=2C_Privacy=2C_and_the_Rig?=
 =?utf-8?b?aHQgdG8gUmVhZOKAj+KAjw==?=
In-Reply-To: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A1B@mailsrv.imj.org.il>
References: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A1B@mailsrv.imj.org.il>
Message-ID: <58C93081-5CC2-4D0A-B8CB-F551C8A103C2@fsu.edu>

Oh, I don't know... "All the way to Urbana for a one night stand?" ;-)  
Best, --Paul

P.S. Mostly an inside joke for those of you who grew up in Chambana,  
and know the movie "Some Like it Hot" (1959).
--------------
Paul F. Marty, Ph.D.
Associate Professor, College of Information, Florida State University
240 Louis Shores Building, Tallahassee, FL 32306-2100
http://marty.ci.fsu.edu/ ? 850.644.5133 ? marty at fsu.edu

On Mar 15, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Amalyah Keshet [akeshet at imj.org.il] wrote:

> A bit of background reading, in order to understand why that trip to  
> Champaign/Urbana is so important.


From tatherton at st-albert.net  Mon Mar 16 11:01:35 2009
From: tatherton at st-albert.net (Tim Atherton)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:01:35 -0600
Subject: [MCN-L] Anyone using MediaDex for Digital Asset Management?
Message-ID: <C5E3FE2F.83A5%tatherton@st-albert.net>

(Excuse the cross-posting)

Is anyone using MediaDex for small scale Digital Asset Management?

I?ve been looking for a smaller scale image file (mainly) management
programme ? mainly for practical use ? keeping track of digitized images,
images for photo orders etc. But which can also be accessed by a few staff,
add some basic metadata etc.

I?d been trying out Expressions Media (was iView Media Pro)  and a couple of
others but wasn?t entirely happy with them.

I didn?t want to go to something like a whole Extensis Portfolio setup
though.

I used to use Canto Cumulus quite some time ago and generally liked it, but
when I looked at the site I found they appeared to have got rid of their
stand alone version. But recently discovered it had become MediaDex two or
three years ago.

http://www.mediadex.com/us/index.htm

Downloaded the trial and it seems fairly nice so far.

SO ? is anyone else using it? Experience? Problems? Also, is it still being
developed/used or is the software basically static now? (couldn?t find much
on the website)


thanks

tim a


-----  

Tim Atherton 
Assistant Curator 
Mus?e H?ritage Museum & Archives
St. Albert  

(780) 459-1594 
tatherton at st-albert.net



From J-Champagne at NGA.GOV  Mon Mar 16 11:04:12 2009
From: J-Champagne at NGA.GOV (Champagne, Joanna)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:04:12 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Endeca
In-Reply-To: <C5E3FE2F.83A5%tatherton@st-albert.net>
Message-ID: <C5E41AEC.DD9C%J-Champagne@NGA.GOV>

Hello,

Is anyone using the search tool Endeca, or Endeca with TMS. I would love to
speak with you?

Best,
Joanna
.................
Joanna Champagne
Chief of Web and New Media Initiatives
National Gallery of Art
NGA.GOV 



From julie at openedit.org  Mon Mar 16 11:46:54 2009
From: julie at openedit.org (Julie Riley OpenEdit)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:46:54 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Anyone using MediaDex for Digital Asset Management?
In-Reply-To: <C5E3FE2F.83A5%tatherton@st-albert.net>
References: <C5E3FE2F.83A5%tatherton@st-albert.net>
Message-ID: <49BEACAE.7070303@openedit.org>

Tim,

If you would, take a look at OpenEdit DAM, it's open source, no charge 
to download and use. We originally built OpenEdit so it would integrate 
with Canto Cumulus, as many of our users were not satisfied with Canto's 
web side (WPP and ICP) software.

OpenEdit still integrates with Cumulus server but has also become a 
self-supporting DAM application. OpenEdit is used by single users up to 
Enterprise users...

http://www.openeditdam.com

Regards,

Julie Riley



Tim Atherton wrote:
> (Excuse the cross-posting)
>
> Is anyone using MediaDex for small scale Digital Asset Management?
>
> I?ve been looking for a smaller scale image file (mainly) management
> programme ? mainly for practical use ? keeping track of digitized images,
> images for photo orders etc. But which can also be accessed by a few staff,
> add some basic metadata etc.
>
> I?d been trying out Expressions Media (was iView Media Pro)  and a couple of
> others but wasn?t entirely happy with them.
>
> I didn?t want to go to something like a whole Extensis Portfolio setup
> though.
>
> I used to use Canto Cumulus quite some time ago and generally liked it, but
> when I looked at the site I found they appeared to have got rid of their
> stand alone version. But recently discovered it had become MediaDex two or
> three years ago.
>
> http://www.mediadex.com/us/index.htm
>
> Downloaded the trial and it seems fairly nice so far.
>
> SO ? is anyone else using it? Experience? Problems? Also, is it still being
> developed/used or is the software basically static now? (couldn?t find much
> on the website)
>
>
> thanks
>
> tim a
>
>
> -----  
>
> Tim Atherton 
> Assistant Curator 
> Mus?e H?ritage Museum & Archives
> St. Albert  
>
> (780) 459-1594 
> tatherton at st-albert.net
>
>
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Tue Mar 17 06:38:50 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:38:50 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] "Scholarship in the Digital Age" - Columbia University on
	March 24
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A4D@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

For those NOT in the Berkeley area:

________________________________

Subject: Scholarship in the Digital Age/Columbia Univ program on March 24

Dear Colleagues:

Please share this announcement widely!  The larger community of information professionals throughout the New York region may be interested in attending the presentation by Prof. Borgman on March 24 (details below).  RSVP helpful, but we will welcome anyone interested in the issues of digital scholarship.  I will be there, and I look forward to an exciting event.  All the best,

Kenny Crews

--
Kenneth D. Crews, J.D., Ph.D.
Director, Copyright Advisory Office
Columbia University Libraries
www.copyright.columbia.edu/contact<http://www.copyright.columbia.edu/contact>
Faculty Member, Columbia Law School and Munich Intellectual Property Law Center

*Columbia University Libraries/Information Services NEWS

*Scholarly Communication Program to Host Christine Borgman on Scholarship in the Digital Age* <http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/news/exhibitions/2009/SCP_hosts_ChristineBorgman.html>
/The fifth in a six-event series on today's pivotal issues in scholarly communication /

(NEW YORK, March 3, 2009) Christine Borgman, Professor of Information Studies at UCLA and author of two widely praised books on digital technology and scholarship, will speak at Columbia University on "Scholarship in the Digital Age." The talk, sponsored by Columbia University's Scholarly Communication Program <http://scholcomm.columbia.edu>, will take place on Tuesday, March 24, 2009, at 3 p.m. in Butler Library Room 203 on Columbia's Morningside Campus. This event is free and open to the public, though anyone without a Columbia University ID must RSVP <mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu<mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu>> to kp2002 at columbia.edu<mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu> <mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu<mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu>>.

Borgman is the author of more than 180 publications in the fields of information studies, computer science, and communication, including the award-winning /Scholarship in the Digital Age: Information, Infrastructure, and the Internet /(MIT Press, 2007) and /From Gutenberg to the Global Information Infrastructure: Access to Information in a Networked World/ (MIT Press, 2000). She is a lead investigator for the Center for Embedded Networked Systems (CENS) at the National Science Foundation (NSF) and chaired the NSF's Task Force on Cyberlearning.

Today's research and scholarship is data- and information-intensive, distributed, interdisciplinary, and collaborative. However, the scholarly practices, products, and sources of data vary widely between disciplines. Some fields are more advantaged than others by the array of content now online and by the tools and services available to make use of that content. Borgman's talk will provide an overview of new developments in scholarly information infrastructure, including policy issues such as open access and intellectual property. The event will also address the implications of e-science for cyberlearning, drawn from the NSF Task Force Report, /Fostering Learning in the Networked World/.

The talk "Scholarship in the Digital Age" is part of an ongoing speaker series on today's pivotal issues in scholarly communication, /Research without Borders: The Changing World of Scholarly Communication/ <http://scholcomm.columbia.edu/events>, organized by the Scholarly Communication Program of Columbia University Libraries/Information Services. Follow the live event remotely via Twitter at http://twitter.com/ScholarlyComm. Video of each event will be available on the Scholarly Communication Program site and Columbia University's iTunesU <http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects/Core.woa/Browse/columbia.edu.1786272348> page. For information, please email Kathryn Pope at kp2002 at columbia.edu<mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu> <mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu<mailto:kp2002 at columbia.edu>>, or visit http://scholcomm.columbia.edu/events/.
*
*The *Scholarly Communication Program* is an initiative of the Columbia University Libraries/Information Services' Center for Digital Research and Scholarship <http://cdrs.columbia.edu>. Established in April 2008 to encourage discussion about and innovative solutions to scholarly communication issues, the Program aims to support faculty members, librarians, staff, and students as they consider their options for creating, distributing, evaluating, reusing, and preserving new knowledge in a rapidly changing communications environment.

*Columbia University Libraries/Information Services* is one of the top five academic research library systems in North America. The collections include over 10 million volumes, over 100,000 journals and serials, as well as extensive electronic resources, manuscripts, rare books, microforms, maps, graphic and audio-visual materials. The services and collections are organized into 25 libraries and various academic technology centers. The Libraries employs more than 550 professional and support staff. The website of the Libraries at www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb<http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb> <http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb> is the gateway to its services and resources.

###

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iTunesU <http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects/Core.woa/Browse/columbia.edu.1786272348>





From simon.tanner at kcl.ac.uk  Wed Mar 11 12:48:04 2009
From: simon.tanner at kcl.ac.uk (Tanner, Simon)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:48:04 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Costing and funding digitisation projects Executive briefing
Message-ID: <49B82384.7030106@kcl.ac.uk>

More and more libraries are working on digitisation projects - are you 
one of them?

If so CILIP's Costing and funding digitisation projects Executive 
Briefing on 26 March is a must-attend event.

The expert panel of speakers will share their experience and expertise. 
  During the day delegates will be provided with key information to 
enable them to better assess the prospects of their digitisation 
projects, and the pitfalls and opportunities in gaining funding.

The full programme, details of the speakers, and registration can be 
found at: www.cilip.org.uk/digitalcosting


-- 
Simon Tanner
Director,  King's Digital Consultancy Services,
King's College London,
Centre for Computing in the Humanities,
26-29 Drury Lane, London WC2B 5RL
Tel: +44 (0)7887 691716 or Admin: +44 (0)20 7848 2861
Email: simon.tanner at kcl.ac.uk
http://www.kdcs.kcl.ac.uk/

From amaliasl at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 20:16:53 2009
From: amaliasl at gmail.com (Amalia S. Levi)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:16:53 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Minorities and digital collections
Message-ID: <368ca3390903172116y539e28adl1c5915bb924b4a91@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

 As a master?s student in History and Archives at the University of
Maryland, I?m interested in researching how digital archives and collections
make minority narratives?

usually not part of mainstream history?widely available and accessible. I
use the overarching term ?minorities? to include ethnic, racial and
religious groups, indigenous peoples, women, LGBT groups, people with
disabilities, and immigrants; in short, communities that usually are not
agents in the archival and museum world.



In order to collect examples of digital archives of or about minorities in
one place, as well as literature on the subject and tools that may be useful
for developing such projects, I?ve created a wiki called ?Digital Homelands?
(www.digitalminorities.pbwiki.com). Digital archives and collections can
be thought of as transplanted online "homelands," where identities are being
shaped, contested and projected and where the assumption of our
Western archival
and museum practices is being challenged.



The wiki is in no way complete. In order to include as much material as
possible, I would appreciate contributions of archives, collections,
projects or ideas on this subject.

If you would like to send your thoughts and for more information, please
e-mail me at amaliasl at gmail.com or visit and contribute to my wiki at
www.digitalminorities.pbwiki.com.



Please excuse any crossposting.


Thank you,

Amalia S. Levi
Graduate Assistant
History Department/iSchool
University of Maryland
College Park, MD

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Tue Mar 17 23:15:49 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:15:49 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] FW:  Anyone using MediaDex for Digital Asset Management?
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A57@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

>From our Collections Database Manager:

"MediaDex caused me tremendous amount of angst. The program looks great, the demo works well, I purchased it for $80 and then it erased all my work TWICE over the course of two months!    I looked online and saw that this is a regular problem and the company would be "happy" to fix the file that became "corrupted" for a price."







-----Original Message-----





Tim Atherton wrote:

> (Excuse the cross-posting)

>

> Is anyone using MediaDex for small scale Digital Asset Management?

>

> I?ve been looking for a smaller scale image file (mainly) management

> programme ? mainly for practical use ? keeping track of digitized

> images, images for photo orders etc. But which can also be accessed by

> a few staff, add some basic metadata etc.

>

> I?d been trying out Expressions Media (was iView Media Pro)  and a

> couple of others but wasn?t entirely happy with them.

>

> I didn?t want to go to something like a whole Extensis Portfolio setup

> though.

>

> I used to use Canto Cumulus quite some time ago and generally liked

> it, but when I looked at the site I found they appeared to have got

> rid of their stand alone version. But recently discovered it had

> become MediaDex two or three years ago.

>

> http://www.mediadex.com/us/index.htm

>

> Downloaded the trial and it seems fairly nice so far.

>

> SO ? is anyone else using it? Experience? Problems? Also, is it still

> being developed/used or is the software basically static now?

> (couldn?t find much on the website)

>

>

> thanks

>

> tim a

>

>

> -----

>

> Tim Atherton

> Assistant Curator

> Mus?e H?ritage Museum & Archives

> St. Albert

>

> (780) 459-1594

> tatherton at st-albert.net

>

>

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From mcheck at museumofplay.org  Wed Mar 18 03:52:43 2009
From: mcheck at museumofplay.org (Check, Marc)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:52:43 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] New York Museum Opens National Center for the History of
 Electronic Games
Message-ID: <4D2455C2CCAC9C46BC8C325595AD317F03BB01CEDD@Exch2k8>

Strong National Museum of Play, the only museum anywhere devoted solely to the study and interpretation of play, is pleased to announce the establishment of the National Center for the History of Electronic Games (NCHEG), dedicated to collecting, preserving, and interpreting electronic games and game forms for future generations.

The National Center for the History of Electronic Games houses one of the largest and most comprehensive collections of electronic game platforms and games in the United States (nearly 15,000 items). The Center's collections are broadly inclusive and also encompass packaging, advertising, publications, electronic-game-inspired consumer products, literary and popular inspirations of electronic-games imagery, historical records, personal and business papers, and other associated artifacts.

The Center's holdings include examples of every major home video-game console manufactured since 1972 (from Magnavox Odyssey and Atari 2600 through Nintendo Wii); more than 10,000 individual video-game titles (from Atari Space Invaders to Sega Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog to Wii Sports); more than one-hundred examples of all major handheld games systems (from Milton Bradley Microvision to Sony PSP); more than 2,000 children's educational games; and an extensive collection of children's toys, such as Simon, Tamogotchi, and Webkinz, that combine digital and traditional play; and much, much more.

According to G. Rollie Adams, president and CEO of Strong National Museum of Play, "Electronic games are not only changing the way we play; they are having a profound effect on the way we learn and the way we interact with each other. Because Strong National Museum of Play is dedicated to exploring the role of play in American life, we are especially interested in the growing impact that electronic games have on it. The National Center for the History of Electronic Games is the museum's mechanism for collecting games and related artifacts and documentation; and for interpreting them through exhibits, publications, and other means. We have been fortunate to assemble one of the two or three largest, and arguably the most broadly comprehensive, collections of electronic games and associated items in the country."

All the collections in the NCHEG at Strong are accessible to researchers on site. Many examples are on view in museum displays and exhibits, and some are available for museum guests to play. In development is an expansive, long-term, interactive exhibit tentatively titled The Revolutionary World of Electronic Games that will interpret the impact of electronic games on the way people play, learn, and connect with each other. In addition, through grants from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the museum is currently cataloging its entire collection of video games and electronic-games- related toy catalogs with the goal of making information about them accessible online.

The Center actively seeks to add to its collections and encourages queries from individuals and organizations that have important materials that merit a permanent home. To inquire about donating games, platforms, or other material, contact Jon-Paul C. Dyson, director of the National Center for the History of Electronic Games (jpdyson at museumofplay.org) or Eric Wheeler, Associate Curator of the National Center for the History of Electronic Games (ewheeler at museumofplay.org). For more information about NCHEG visit www.ncheg.org.

About Strong National Museum of Play: Home to the Brian Sutton-Smith Library and Archives of Play, Strong National Museum of Play houses the world's most comprehensive collection of dolls, toys, games, and play-related artifacts and is the only collections-based museum anywhere devoted solely to the critical role of play in learning and human development and the ways in which play illuminates American cultural history. The museum produces the American Journal of Play, a peer-reviewed, interdisciplinary, scholarly journal and is home to the National Toy Hall of Fame? and dynamic, innovative exhibitions combining artifacts and interactivity. For more information, visit www.museumofplay.org

From richard at light.demon.co.uk  Wed Mar 18 04:27:05 2009
From: richard at light.demon.co.uk (Richard Light)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:27:05 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] CIDOC 2009 Call for Papers
Message-ID: <8FkXxoUZiOwJFw49@light.demon.co.uk>


CIDOC 2009 Conference
Documentation in the XXI Century: Connecting cultural heritage 
information

Date: September 27th - October 1st 2009
Location: Centro Patrimonial Recoleta Dom?nica, Santiago de Chile, Chile

Local Organiser: Centro de Documentaci?n de Bienes Patrimoniales, 
Subdirecci?n de Museos, Archivos y Bibliotecas  Direcci?n de 
Bibliotecas, Archivos y Museos

CIDOC2009 website: www.cidoc2009.cl

CIDOC2009 (Santiago, Chile) will be focused on cultural heritage 
information connectivity

Museum specialists and researchers know that collection documentation is 
the most effective way of preserving cultural heritage and information 
about objects.

The challenge is for museum professionals to link their information with 
that created by other institutions.

To what extent can current documentation initiatives draw together the 
different strands of cultural heritage data? That is the real challenge 
that we face in the 21st Century.

Important dates:
Deadline for submitting papers and posters: April 1. 2009 (new)
Notification about acceptance: April 30. 2009
Preliminary programme: May 15. 2009
Preconference workshops and tutorials: September 27th
Conference: September 28th - October 1st 2009

Contact person: Lina Nagel, lnagel at cdbp.cl.

More information on the CIDOC 2009 website www.cidoc2009.cl

-- 
Richard Light

From jamakawa at studioamakawa.com  Wed Mar 18 06:58:19 2009
From: jamakawa at studioamakawa.com (jamakawa at studioamakawa.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:58:19 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Minorities and digital collections
Message-ID: <49897.1237388299@studioamakawa.com>

 

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Hi Amalia, 

	You might be interested in a permanent virtual reality exhibit that
I'm currently developing for Pittsburgh's Heinz History Museum (a
Smithsonian affiliate). The exhibit presents the history of the
Underground Railroad in Western Pennsylvania by virtually
reconstructing key UR sites. The exhibit is scheduled to be installed
in late 2009 and will have web as well as an on-site component.
Development of the exhibit involves a collaboration between myself and
Sam Black, the Heinz History Center's Curator for African American
Collections. This is actually the second virtually reality exhibit
that I have created for the museum on African American history. The
first was a virtual reconstruction of Greenlee Field--a 1930s era
Negro League baseball stadium in Pittsburgh. 

	If interested, I'd be happy to discuss the project in more detail.
 Jon Amakawa 
 Studio Amakawa 
 www.studioamakawa.com 
 Phone: 412-478-5591 
 jamakawa at studioamakawa.com 
 On Wed 18/03/09 00:16 , "Amalia S. Levi" amaliasl at gmail.com sent:
  Hi,
 As a master?s student in History and Archives at the University of
 Maryland, I?m interested in researching how digital archives and
collections
 make minority narratives?
 usually not part of mainstream history?widely available and
accessible. I
 use the overarching term ?minorities? to include ethnic, racial
and
 religious groups, indigenous peoples, women, LGBT groups, people
with
 disabilities, and immigrants; in short, communities that usually are
not
 agents in the archival and museum world.
 In order to collect examples of digital archives of or about
minorities in
 one place, as well as literature on the subject and tools that may
be useful
 for developing such projects, I?ve created a wiki called
?Digital Homelands?
 (www.digitalminorities.pbwiki.com [1]). Digital archives and
collections can
 be thought of as transplanted online "homelands," where identities
are being
 shaped, contested and projected and where the assumption of our
 Western archival
 and museum practices is being challenged.
 The wiki is in no way complete. In order to include as much material
as
 possible, I would appreciate contributions of archives, collections,
 projects or ideas on this subject.
 If you would like to send your thoughts and for more information,
please
 e-mail me at amaliasl at gmail.com [2] or visit and contribute to my
wiki at
 www.digitalminorities.pbwiki.com [3].
 Please excuse any crossposting.
 Thank you,
 Amalia S. Levi
 Graduate Assistant
 History Department/iSchool
 University of Maryland
 College Park, MD
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Wed Mar 18 08:55:26 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:55:26 +0200
Subject: =?windows-1256?Q?F=FE=FEW:_What_Have_We_Been_Searching_For=3F_?=
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B43F922@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Back to Berkeley...

________________________________________
þþ
Friday  Afternoon Seminar on Information Access
South Hall 107, 3:00 p.m.

Everyone interested is welcome!
http://courses.ischool.berkeley.edu/i296a-1/s09/schedule.html

Friday, Mar 20: Paul DUGUID: The World According to grep: What
Have We Been Searching For?

In recent years the Internet has increasingly been defined by
search, its resources reached primarily through a search box.
While the Internet is new, search of course is not. And though
modern search may appear to endorse the idea that we have
always been foraging for information, and that progress has
involved shrugging off old encumbrances in order to make
information increasingly "free" and autonomous, this
discussion hopes to put the history of search in an
alternative light and so doing clarify some of what is and is
not new and perhaps what is and is not possible for the
developing world of digital search.

Also Clifford LYNCH: An Update on Institutional Repositories
and Development of International Repository Infrastructure

We have looked several times at the evolving role of
institutional repositories. In this discussion, which follows
on an international meeting earlier this week in Amsterdam
looking at the roadmap for inter-repository infrastructure, I
will look at some of the goals that we might hope to achieve
in the evolution of inter-repository infrastructure and
inter-repository interoperability of various kinds, and some
of the technologies and standards that may be helpful in
achieving these goals.

________________________________________

From aridavidow at gmail.com  Wed Mar 18 09:27:24 2009
From: aridavidow at gmail.com (Ari Davidow)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:27:24 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] new Fedora SIG - "Small Archives" at MW BOF breakfast,
	Apr 17
Message-ID: <747cfaf50903181027m76126de5w369c345ac251c503@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have been talking with Thornton Staples, of Fedora Commons, for the
last couple of months about a new "Small Archives" for Fedora. The
problem we're addressing is how to gain small archives access to
repository and long-term preservation facilitaties, given that most
small archives have limited budgets, limited technical staff, and
limited resources, overall, with which to figure this out.

At the Jewish Women's Archive we have been working on setting up a
repository for over two years (and in fact, I will be talking about
that Repository, including "why, for our particular needs, Fedora") in
a session on "Technology Strategies" on Thursday morning). My
organization now has a "starter" repository in action, and we are
gradually loading it up with data and working out policies,
procedures, and long-term preservation strategies. It's a fragile
process, interrupted frequently. The obvious solution is to be working
actively with other small cultural heritage organizations, something
that we are just starting to do locally, and need to be doing more
broadly.

The thing is, I am pretty sure that we small archives are the long
tail of cultural memory and cultural heritage. Even if every large
cultural heritage institution had the pieces in place for great
long-term access and preservation, that would still leave most of our
planet's cultural heritage without such protection. The question
Thorny and I have been asking is that if we pool resources, can we
agree on common content models, and set up one repository? Is the work
that JWA has done with MediaShelf enough (maybe in conjunction with
the University of Hull's "Hydra" project) such that many small
repositories, with minimal help--some through this SIG/Community of
Practice, can set up and maintain their own repositories and create a
richer cultural heritage ecology? What, in the end, does "setting up a
repository" need and require, and how does that fit the reality of a
small archive? What models best fit the needs of our organizations?

Thorny will be joining me at MW Friday morning for the Birds of a
Feather breakfast where we'll be hanging out with other "Small
Archives/Fedora" feathered friends. Between that session, and our
combined noise and discussion at the conference, I am hoping that
we'll feel comfortable formally starting the SIG. Folks interested in
or using other repository frameworks are also welcome to join in the
discussion.

We look forward to seeing everyone in Indianapolis in a few weeks.

Ari Davidow
Jewish Women's Archive

Resources:
Museums and the Web, Apr 15-18, Indianapolis, IN -
http://www.archimuse.com/mw2009/
Fedora Commons - http://www.fedora-commons.org/
other FC communities of practice -
https://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/FCCWG/Home

From melings at library.berkeley.edu  Wed Mar 18 10:19:06 2009
From: melings at library.berkeley.edu (M. Elings)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:19:06 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Minorities and digital collections
In-Reply-To: <368ca3390903172116y539e28adl1c5915bb924b4a91@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <368ca3390903172116y539e28adl1c5915bb924b4a91@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090318102759.0273f1d8@library.berkeley.edu>

The Bancroft Library has created and provided 
online access to numerous digital collections 
involving some of the groups you mentioned. These 
are available on the California Digital Library's 
site along with similar contributions from other 
cultural heritage institutions from across 
California. California's history involves many 
peoples and groups and to list only these 
examples seems a disservice to the many 
participants in that history, but hopefully this 
will bring to light a few interesting examples 
that have to date been digitized.

Below are examples of curated digital collections 
(selections from various archival collections, 
for more see: 
http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/), as 
well as archival collections that have been 
digitized (for more see: 
http://oac.cdlib.org/institutions/ark:/13030/tf7r29p8s0):

Curated Digital Collections:

California Cultures
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/calcultures/

Chinese in California
http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/chineseinca/

Disability Rights and Independent Living Movement
http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/drilm/

Italian Americans in California
http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/italianamericans/

Japanese American Relocation Archive (JARDA)
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/jarda/

Catalonian Manuscripts
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/catalan/


Digitized Archival Collections:

African Americans in the San Francisco Bay Area, 1963-1974
http://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf9199p6s2

Photographs of Agricultural Laborers in California, ca. 1906-1911
http://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf200007qw

Drawings of Indians and California scenery circa 1851-1854
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt8h4nd0m3

C. Hart Merriam Collection of Native American Photographs, ca. 1890-1938
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf9f59p6w7

National Association for the Advancement of 
Colored People, Region 1 photograph collection ca. 1940-1982
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf6d5nb26b

National Association for the Advancement of 
Colored People, Region I, records, 1942-1986 (bulk 1945-1977)
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf467nb0jm

San Francisco Chinese Community and Earthquake Damage, ca. 1906
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf2n39n8mr

Yoshiko Uchida photograph collection
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/ft6k4007pc

Family members and descendents of General M.G. Vallejo circa 1850-1972
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt300019nx

Vietnam: Journey of the heart 1985-2000
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/hb4r29p36v

James Earl Wood Photograph Collection Relating to 
Filipinos in California, ca. 1929-1934
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf5d5nb77z


Mary W. Elings
Archivist for Digital Collections
The Bancroft Library
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-6000
melings*library.berkeley.edu
Ph 510-643-2273
Fx 510-643-2548




At 09:16 PM 3/17/2009, Amalia S. Levi wrote:
>Hi,
>
>  As a master?s student in History and Archives at the University of
>Maryland, I?m interested in researching how digital archives and collections
>make minority narratives?usually not part of mainstream history?
>widely available and accessible. I
>use the overarching term ?minorities? to include ethnic, racial and
>religious groups, indigenous peoples, women, LGBT groups, people with
>disabilities, and immigrants; in short, communities that usually are not
>agents in the archival and museum world.
>
>
>
>In order to collect examples of digital archives of or about minorities in
>one place, as well as literature on the subject and tools that may be useful
>for developing such projects, I?ve created a wiki called ?Digital Homelands?
>(www.digitalminorities.pbwiki.com). Digital archives and collections can
>be thought of as transplanted online "homelands," where identities are being
>shaped, contested and projected and where the assumption of our
>Western archival
>and museum practices is being challenged.
>
>
>
>The wiki is in no way complete. In order to include as much material as
>possible, I would appreciate contributions of archives, collections,
>projects or ideas on this subject.
>
>If you would like to send your thoughts and for more information, please
>e-mail me at amaliasl at gmail.com or visit and contribute to my wiki at
>www.digitalminorities.pbwiki.com.
>
>
>
>Please excuse any crossposting.
>
>
>Thank you,
>
>Amalia S. Levi
>Graduate Assistant
>History Department/iSchool
>University of Maryland
>College Park, MD
>_______________________________________________
>You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the 
>listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>
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From tatherton at st-albert.net  Wed Mar 18 12:26:19 2009
From: tatherton at st-albert.net (Tim Atherton)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:26:19 -0600
Subject: [MCN-L] FW: Anyone using MediaDex for Digital Asset Management?
In-Reply-To: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A57@mailsrv.imj.org.il>
Message-ID: <C5E6B50B.84A2%tatherton@st-albert.net>

Thanks for all the info all ? v helpful


-----  

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Assistant Curator 
Mus?e H?ritage Museum & Archives
St. Albert  

(780) 459-1594 
tatherton at st-albert.net




From nina at museumtwo.com  Wed Mar 18 15:16:01 2009
From: nina at museumtwo.com (Nina Simon)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:16:01 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter - Follow?
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647C95@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1643C59CD6@dtes01.SAM.Home>
	<8594D649-DFE8-47F0-8EE8-6949DF362B61@mac.com>
	<AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647C95@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <70F08034-6270-4CBF-A7A8-FD6663827CD6@museumtwo.com>

I'd just like to throw out there that in addition to following those  
who follow you, there are some interesting ways to find new people to  
follow.  In Tweetdeck, I have columns for search terms -- some very  
general, like "museum," and some more specific ("treehouse") -- and  
every once in a while, I'll see something surprising and interesting  
flow through that larger volume, someone I wouldn't have found  
otherwise.

Aaron Schmidt, who runs the DC library twitter account, only follows  
DC people (and consciously not professional librarians) because he  
wants that account to be focused on conversations with locals.  His  
personal account is different...

Nina


Nina Simon
Museum 2.0 - www.museumtwo.com

831.331.5460
nina at museumtwo.com
1040 Mystery Spot Road
Santa Cruz, CA 95065
skype, twitter, yahooIM, flickr, facebook: ninaksimon





On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Perian Sully wrote:

> I also don't follow everyone who follows us. I look for the following:
>
> - People (general public) with an interest in history, museums,  
> culture,
> Jewish content, and sometimes technology. I follow a lot of folks here
> from MCN and elsewhere using the Magnes feed (@magnes), instead of my
> personal one - mostly because I don't use my personal one very often.
> - Museums, archives, libraries, and various cultural centers
> - Certain news feeds that relate to our content
>
> I do NOT follow:
> - spammers
> - individuals who post nothing but really mundane thoughts (the "I'm  
> in
> the bathroom," "making a sandwich for dinner" sorts)
> - individuals who are following 20,000 people
> - people who lock their posts (I come across some museums or cultural
> centers who do this. WHY???)
> - people whose content or interests have nothing to do with ours (they
> might have a fascinating set of posts, but I don't need to read about
> the minutia of hedgetrimming or aquarium maintenance on my  
> institutional
> feed).
> - people or institutions who only post marketing materials
>
> When it comes to following individuals, I like knowing what our public
> might be thinking about, and so try to direct my tweets to coincide  
> with
> their interests. But there are only so many hours in the day, and so I
> can't afford to be exceptionally liberal with who I choose to follow.
>
> ~P
>
>
> Perian Sully
> Collections Information Manager
> Web Programs Strategist
> The Magnes
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 3/13/0912:50 PM, Christina DePaolo wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I set up a twitter feed for SAM recently @iheartSAM. I am loving
>> tweeting for SAM, but there are still a couple of things that I am
>> fuzzy about. I am following everyone who is following us, but it is
>> a bit overwhelming.  How do you chose who to follow? Looking at
>> museum's feeds I see a variety of solutions.
>>
>> I am curious about those of you who don't follow everyone, but
>> follow a targeted group of individuals and institutions. This looks
>> like a good option for a somewhat targeted dialogue/community.  How
>> do you decide which individuals to follow? Not so concerned about
>> institutions because that is easy to do/resolve.
>>
>> Thank you. Christina
>>
>>
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From annelies.vannispen at den.nl  Thu Mar 19 00:52:21 2009
From: annelies.vannispen at den.nl (Annelies van Nispen)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:52:21 +0100
Subject: [MCN-L] Minorities and digital collections
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1237406402.19755.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1237406402.19755.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Message-ID: <66E4984ED123AA4B85031AB80E75E94B12EE25@server01.den.nl>

Hello all,


A small contribution on Minorities and Digital Collections.

Susan Meiselas (Magnum photographer) has been pioneering this subject
for a very long time now. Of course her main interest is photography,
but she did a project on the history of (the diaspora) of Kurds in
photographs. It is called: 

akaKURDISTAN: A place for collective memory and cultural exchange
http://www.akakurdistan.com/

"this site, a borderless space, provides the opportunity to build a
collective memory for people that have no national archive"


In the Netherlands there is a very promising and interesting project
named PACE, which aims to create a digital space for Papua Heritage.
http://www.papuaheritage.org/en


Good luck with your research and i bookmarked your wiki!

Greetings



From rjurban at illinois.edu  Thu Mar 19 06:38:20 2009
From: rjurban at illinois.edu (Richard Urban)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:38:20 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] MW2009 Roomates?
Message-ID: <E5208E6E-0638-4B2E-8CDB-0EAFEFF1F2B5@illinois.edu>

Hi all,

I'm looking for someone willing to share a room at the Hyatt for  
Museums & the Web.  I already have a reservation for 4/15-4/18.

On a related note I've been surprised about how little "room sharing"  
e-mails I see here for our own conference.   Given that everyone's  
budgets will be extra tight this year what can MCN do to help  
facilitate sharing costs?

Cheers,

Richard Urban, Doctoral Student
Graduate School of Library & Information Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
rjurban at uiuc.edu
http://isrl.uiuc.edu/~rjurban



From pdadamcz at uiuc.edu  Thu Mar 19 10:59:39 2009
From: pdadamcz at uiuc.edu (Piotr Adamczyk)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:59:39 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Museum Pipes
Message-ID: <a94ebd0903191159h2f79e977u2d60ae33a0fa53a9@mail.gmail.com>

As a side project, I've been putting together some experimental Yahoo
Pipes (a mashup/aggregator tool) that connect Museum website and
collection information to web APIs. I'd really like to hear what you
all think about the work.

I went with Yahoo Pipes since I thought the platform would lend itself
to sharing and quick experimentation. I wanted to explore the quality
and character of the results of API calls when provided with really
minimal object metadata - just artist name for example.

I've put together a blog with screenshots of output (since many of the
pipes need API keys) and minimal commentary. Some of the pipes are
rigged to take user input, some are automated and hooked to the
Metropolitan Museum's Artwork of the Day Feed.

For example;
A small federated search system -
http://museumpipes.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/federated-search-through-pipes/
A pipe that along with Dipity creates a timeline for search results -
http://museumpipes.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/dipity-timelines/

There are starter pipes for a number of tools - OpenCalais, Delicious,
WordPress, Twitter, YouTube, Flickr, WordNet, XWordNet, TGM 1 and 2,
LCSH, FAST, OCLC Identities, WorldCat, Geolocation pipes through
GeoNames, New York Times Articles and Facets, a few pipes for the
Brooklyn Museum Collection API, hoard.it, Google Books, Base, Images,
Search, and Charts, Wikipedia Images, Pages, Categories, and
Backlinks?

Caveat: Some of the automated pipes break down occasionally since they
rely on unstructured data - drawing from another source is really
straightforward in all cases. Some just take a while to run.

I'm sure most of pipes could be improved but I'm focusing on adding
more sources rather than refining the ones I have. Not sure how or if
they might be used? I?ll be at Museums and the Web if anyone would
like to talk more.

So please copy the pipes, draw from your own data sources, and give
them a try. I'd be thrilled to get comments and if anyone wants to
contribute their own pipes or other extensible projects, I'm happy to
open up the blog.

http://museumpipes.wordpress.com/

Piotr Adamczyk
Analyst, The Metropolitan Museum of Art
piotr.adamczyk at metmuseum.org

From robin at mediacombo.net  Thu Mar 19 13:56:25 2009
From: robin at mediacombo.net (Robin White)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:56:25 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Looking for desktop application
Message-ID: <8BD36322-1C52-443D-9619-C51CAFE1E11F@mediacombo.net>

Hello list,

I'd like to know if any of you have found a stand alone desktop/laptop  
application that can control a camera/capture an image; control a  
microphone, record and save audio; and save a text document. It also  
needs to be able to save each file with the same ID tag for future  
upload to a database as one record.

 From what I can tell the media player is the missing link for  
building this in flash or AIR. If you know of another program that can  
handle this, or a pre-existing application I would be very grateful  
for any info.

Thank you,

Robin

Robin White Owen
Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
M: 917/407-7641
T: 646/472-5145
E: robin at mediacombo.net
www.mediacombo.net




From hmwells at springdalear.gov  Fri Mar 20 06:41:40 2009
From: hmwells at springdalear.gov (Heather Marie Wells)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:41:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [MCN-L] Looking for desktop application
In-Reply-To: <8BD36322-1C52-443D-9619-C51CAFE1E11F@mediacombo.net>
References: <8BD36322-1C52-443D-9619-C51CAFE1E11F@mediacombo.net>
Message-ID: <EBAE7EC6800340C98FA1882F4B73954E@sprd.springdaleark.org>


Robin,

I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but it might help if you
said what you were trying to do instead of describing parts of what you
think you need in order to do it.

Heather Marie

Heather Marie Wells
Collections Assistant/Podcast Producer
Shiloh Museum of Ozark History
118 W. Johnson Ave.
Springdale, AR 72764
Phone: (479) 750-8165
Fax: (479) 750-8693
http://www.springdalear.gov/shiloh/


-----Original Message-----
From: Robin White [mailto:robin at mediacombo.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:56 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Looking for desktop application

Hello list,

I'd like to know if any of you have found a stand alone desktop/laptop  
application that can control a camera/capture an image; control a  
microphone, record and save audio; and save a text document. It also  
needs to be able to save each file with the same ID tag for future  
upload to a database as one record.

 From what I can tell the media player is the missing link for  
building this in flash or AIR. If you know of another program that can  
handle this, or a pre-existing application I would be very grateful  
for any info.

Thank you,

Robin

Robin White Owen
Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
M: 917/407-7641
T: 646/472-5145
E: robin at mediacombo.net
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From psully at magnes.org  Fri Mar 20 07:12:57 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:12:57 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local>

Hi everyone:

 

Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
options.

 

I am currently aware of:

Commercial DAMS:

Extensis

Luna Insight

me

 

Open Source DAMS:

OpenEdit

ResourceSpace

Razuna

(Omeka & Wordpress)

 

I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
get a programmer to do that for us.

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
happy to share that list once it's available.

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 


From RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org  Fri Mar 20 07:23:38 2009
From: RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org (Real, Will)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:23:38 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>

Hi Perian, we are investigating this too and I look forward to hearing
more from others on the list.

This link has a good summary (as of 2007/2008 I think) of the commercial
DAMS market and trends: http://tiny.cc/K6q6s 

Will 

-----Original Message-----
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Perian Sully
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:13 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi everyone:

 

Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
options.

 

I am currently aware of:

Commercial DAMS:

Extensis

Luna Insight

me

 

Open Source DAMS:

OpenEdit

ResourceSpace

Razuna

(Omeka & Wordpress)

 

I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
get a programmer to do that for us.

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
happy to share that list once it's available.

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 

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From mmisunas at sfmoma.org  Fri Mar 20 08:21:33 2009
From: mmisunas at sfmoma.org (Misunas, Marla)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:21:33 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
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	<04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
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SFMOMA is using MediaBin from Interwoven (which has just been bought by
Autonomy). It is talking with our CMS and after a slow start-up process
seems to be working fine.  There are a number of other museums (Met,
IMA, MIA) using MediaBin, they may want to chime in as well.

The short version is, it's working for us so far but for more details,
contact Layna White.

It'll be interesting to see what you come up with--maybe a compiled list
for the MCN website?


Marla Misunas
Collections Information Manager
Collections Information and Access
San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
415-357-4186 (voice)

Explore Modern Art
www.sfmoma.org/collections

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Real, Will
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi Perian, we are investigating this too and I look forward to hearing
more from others on the list.

This link has a good summary (as of 2007/2008 I think) of the commercial
DAMS market and trends: http://tiny.cc/K6q6s 

Will 

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Perian Sully
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:13 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi everyone:

 

Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
options.

 

I am currently aware of:

Commercial DAMS:

Extensis

Luna Insight

me

 

Open Source DAMS:

OpenEdit

ResourceSpace

Razuna

(Omeka & Wordpress)

 

I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
get a programmer to do that for us.

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
happy to share that list once it's available.

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 

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From robin at mediacombo.net  Fri Mar 20 11:13:16 2009
From: robin at mediacombo.net (Robin White)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:13:16 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Re looking for a desktop application
Message-ID: <461DE0EA-8FB0-4149-B5D5-18C25D9DE9F3@mediacombo.net>

Sure, here's what we're trying to do for a state park visitor center:
build an application to reside on a laptop computer that will allow  
park visitors to
-take a picture of themselves,
-record an audio statement or write a statement about their visit to  
the park
and save these files to in such a way that they can be uploaded to a  
database as one record.
The part that has us stumped is finding one desktop program that will  
capture the sound. The rest is easy. Flash will do this but we'd have  
to buy a media player license (out of budget) and AIR doesn't seem to  
have an audio recording component.
Any advice greatly appreciated. Thank you,
Robin
Robin White Owen
Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
M: 917/407-7641
T: 646/472-5145
E: robin at mediacombo.net
www.mediacombo.net




From MParadis at Gallery.ca  Fri Mar 20 12:32:47 2009
From: MParadis at Gallery.ca (MParadis at Gallery.ca)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:32:47 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Re looking for a desktop application
In-Reply-To: <461DE0EA-8FB0-4149-B5D5-18C25D9DE9F3@mediacombo.net>
References: <461DE0EA-8FB0-4149-B5D5-18C25D9DE9F3@mediacombo.net>
Message-ID: <7EB3F7DBBD8F794C9976C9619F86D55808EE579617@MERCURY.NGC.MBAC>

Hi Robin,

Although I have not used this application, it seems to capture the flavour of what you're trying to accomplish.  Check it out and see.

http://www.apreso.com/classroom/images/apreso_classroom_info.pdf



Thanks,

Mark Paradis

Chief, Multimedia Services-Chef de services multim?dia

National Gallery of Canada, Mus?e des beaux-arts du Canada

380 Sussex Drive,Ottawa, Ontario K1N 9N4

ph. 613-990-1788, fx. 613-991-2680

cell 613-797-0558

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Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:13 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Re looking for a desktop application

Sure, here's what we're trying to do for a state park visitor center:
build an application to reside on a laptop computer that will allow
park visitors to
-take a picture of themselves,
-record an audio statement or write a statement about their visit to
the park
and save these files to in such a way that they can be uploaded to a
database as one record.
The part that has us stumped is finding one desktop program that will
capture the sound. The rest is easy. Flash will do this but we'd have
to buy a media player license (out of budget) and AIR doesn't seem to
have an audio recording component.
Any advice greatly appreciated. Thank you,
Robin
Robin White Owen
Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
M: 917/407-7641
T: 646/472-5145
E: robin at mediacombo.net
www.mediacombo.net



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From deborahwythe at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 20 13:49:43 2009
From: deborahwythe at hotmail.com (Deborah Wythe)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:49:43 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
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Hi Perian,

We're using Luna Insight at the Brooklyn Museum and have programmed a two-way path to TMS, our collection management system. Currently about 58,000 object images; 9,000 exhibition installation views; 9000 images from archives (plus a few from libraries).

Object data is written from TMS to Luna on a weekly basis (too many records, too long an indexing procedure to do it nightly) and media records/thumbnails/links to full-size images added to TMS from Luna nightly. Our Collection on the Web pulls images and image data from Luna, object data from TMS, and other content from a CMS. All of this done by our talented folks in Technology.

See the end result at http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/collections/ and lots of posts by Shelley Bernstein (and a few by me) under community/blogs/bloggers.

Deb Wythe
Brooklyn Museum
deborah.wythe at brooklynmuseum.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Perian Sully
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:13 AM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
> 
> Hi everyone:
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
> DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
> options.
> 
>  
> 
> I am currently aware of:
> 
> Commercial DAMS:
> 
> Extensis
> 
> Luna Insight
> 
> me
> 
>  
> 
> Open Source DAMS:
> 
> OpenEdit
> 
> ResourceSpace
> 
> Razuna
> 
> (Omeka & Wordpress)
> 
>  
> 
> I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
> reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
> CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
> available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
> get a programmer to do that for us.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
> be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
> happy to share that list once it's available.
> 
>  
> 
> ~Perian
> 
>  
> 
> Perian Sully
> 
> Collections Information Manager
> 
> Web Programs Strategist
> 
> The Magnes
> 
> 2911 Russell St.
> 
> Berkeley, CA 94705
> 
> Work: 510-549-6950 x 357
> 
> Fax: 510-849-3673
> 
> http://www.magnes.org
> 
> http://www.musematic.org
> 
> http://www.mediaandtechnology.org
> 
>  
> 
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From aridavidow at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 13:57:56 2009
From: aridavidow at gmail.com (Ari Davidow)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:57:56 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Re looking for a desktop application
In-Reply-To: <461DE0EA-8FB0-4149-B5D5-18C25D9DE9F3@mediacombo.net>
References: <461DE0EA-8FB0-4149-B5D5-18C25D9DE9F3@mediacombo.net>
Message-ID: <747cfaf50903201457w2af860abw46c6cf7505ec6a32@mail.gmail.com>

> The part that has us stumped is finding one desktop program that will
> capture the sound.

I bet you could capture the sound easily with "Audacity" on a Windows
machine. How to then save the sound and get it uploaded is a different
issue.

Why not just hook up a webcam. People can choose to be visible or not,
and then you pipe the results--audio only, or audio-video--to your
website as a blog post or something similar.

ari

From susan at susanchun.com  Sat Mar 21 06:17:11 2009
From: susan at susanchun.com (Susan Chun)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:17:11 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] 2009 Conference Round Up--Ideas Solicited
Message-ID: <3FD0B94F-E268-4223-95A2-E069F7385719@susanchun.com>

Dear colleagues,

With many of you reporting that your travel budgets have been nearly  
wiped out, it occurred to me that it might be useful to organize a  
"Conference Round Up" at MCN 2009, a session that would provide an  
overview of highlights from the year's "other" conferences for the  
many people who have to limit their travel to only one conference this  
year.

In preparation for submitting a session proposal, I'm looking to this  
list for several things:

1) Volunteers who might be interested in reporting on a good  
conference that they have attended or will attend this year should get  
in touch. Would you be willing to make a brief report on a  
conference's best projects and ideas, as well as key technology- 
related trends? Don't worry if you're not sure if you'll attend MCN  
yet; I'm just trying to get a sense of who will be where.

2) I'd also be interested in knowing which conferences you'd like to  
hear about. Aside from the usual suspects (AAM, Museums and the Web,  
Webwise), which meetings did you long to attend that you couldn't or  
won't get to (CAA? NAEA? ALA? ASTC? TED? SxSWi? VRA? NMC?)? I can play  
the acronym game all day, but your thoughts about what you'd want to  
hear would be helpful. If you think one of the regional or overseas  
museum conferences is going to be particularly interesting this year,  
let me know about that as well.

You can contact me off list (susan [at] susanchun [dot] com) to  
volunteer to present or to suggest conferences you'd like to hear  
about in Portland this November. Think of this as a preliminary  
environmental scan: your input won't be taken as a commitment to  
attend either MCN or the conference(s) you suggest--we all know how  
changeable everyone's plans are nowadays.

Thanks for your ideas!
Best,
Susan

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sat Mar 21 22:52:38 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:52:38 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG:  Vancouver Olympics [Mis] Using Copyright Law?
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A8C@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Just a bit of morning warm-up excercise for the Olypmpian copyright battles:



Vancouver Olympics Using Copyright Law (Rather Than Scalping Laws) To Ban Ticket Reselling

http://techdirt.com/articles/20090319/1850154187.shtml


...Obviously, that's got nothing to do with the purpose of copyright law, but when you grant silly monopolies, don't be surprised when they're abused.

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sun Mar 22 00:32:10 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:32:10 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: MDA lobbying for copyright exceptions for museums
	(UK)
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A92@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

A couple of interesting and important documents for museums anywhere are available at http://www.collectionslink.org.uk/get_to_grips_with_copyright

For context:

------------------------------------

UK Intellectual Property Office Consultation Offers Hope for Museums
http://www.collectionstrust.org.uk/pr080110

Following discussions with MDA and other sector bodies, the UK Intellectual Property Office has launched a Copyright Exceptions Consultation which could significantly simplify the management of collections for museums.

Launched on the 8th January at the British Library, the Consultation builds on the 2006 Gowers Review of Intellectual Property which proposed a number of modifications to existing rules to improve access to and use of copyright material.

MDA has lobbied for two specific exceptions to copyright law, both of which are included in the Consultation document. These are:

The ability for museums to make copies of works in their collections for the purposes of preservation
Exemptions concerning the copying of parody-style works

Naomi Korn, MDA IP Officer commented, 'MDA welcomes the inclusion of these potential exemptions in the Copyright Exemption Consultation document. Being able to copy works for preservation purposes would help the sector conserve their collections in perpetuity for the benefit of the nation. The exemption for parody-style works would mean that curators could handle these sometime complex works in confidence.

MDA is working closely with the UK Intellectual Property Office and others to ensure that museums can make the most of their collections for their users while minimising the potential for infringing copyright.'

The Copyright Exemptions Consultation runs to April 2008, and a copy of the full document is available to download at www.ipo.gov.uk/consult-copyrightexceptions.htm.

Museums interested in MDA's work on Copyright can download a copy of the Intellectual Property Manifesto at www.collectionslink.org.uk/get_to_grips_with_copyright.


-----------------------------------------------

Amalyah Keshet
Chair, MCN IP SIG


From robin at mediacombo.net  Sun Mar 22 04:58:11 2009
From: robin at mediacombo.net (Robin White)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:58:11 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] re desktop applications and Susan's idea for conference
	round up
Message-ID: <98C281E2-F77B-4349-B175-89663D50EE25@mediacombo.net>

Thank you to Mark Paradis and Ari for your thoughtful suggestions. We  
can't use a web interface here - the park only has dial up connections!

Susan,
I'd love to hear about SXSWi, Webwise and ASTC for sure.

Best,

Robin

Robin White Owen
Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
M: 917/407-7641
T: 646/472-5145
E: robin at mediacombo.net
www.mediacombo.net




From aridavidow at gmail.com  Sun Mar 22 07:23:49 2009
From: aridavidow at gmail.com (Ari Davidow)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:23:49 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] re desktop applications and Susan's idea for conference
	round up
In-Reply-To: <98C281E2-F77B-4349-B175-89663D50EE25@mediacombo.net>
References: <98C281E2-F77B-4349-B175-89663D50EE25@mediacombo.net>
Message-ID: <747cfaf50903220823m2e6893daufcf0dd15583ef145@mail.gmail.com>

Robin,

There is nothing to stop you from running a local web server, on the
computer that your visitors will be using at the park. You could, at
your discretion, mirror new daily content overnight to a site more
easily accessible, but that may not be the point.

I have Apache (as one example) and a database (MySQL) running on my
laptop all the time as part of my personal development environment so
that I don't need to be on the Internet to work on web issues. No
reason not to take advantage of the plethora of web technology
available and set up a similar local solution for your visitors.

ari

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Robin White <robin at mediacombo.net> wrote:
> Thank you to Mark Paradis and Ari for your thoughtful suggestions. We
> can't use a web interface here - the park only has dial up connections!
>
> Susan,
> I'd love to hear about SXSWi, Webwise and ASTC for sure.
>
> Best,
>
> Robin
>
> Robin White Owen
> Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
> M: 917/407-7641
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> www.mediacombo.net
>
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From j.stevenson at vam.ac.uk  Mon Mar 23 03:34:23 2009
From: j.stevenson at vam.ac.uk (James Stevenson)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:34:23 +0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
In-Reply-To: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
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Can I bring your attention to Asset Index+ from SSL 

www.ssl.co.uk 

This is a UK based system but they have a lot of experience of working in the cultural heritage sector.

Regards

James Stevenson
Photographic Manager
Victoria and Albert Museum
South Kensington
London
UK

tel +44 (0) 207 942 2545
fax +44 (0) 207 942 2746

www.vam.ac.uk

>>> "Real, Will" <RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org> 20/03/2009 15:23 >>>
Hi Perian, we are investigating this too and I look forward to hearing
more from others on the list.

This link has a good summary (as of 2007/2008 I think) of the commercial
DAMS market and trends: http://tiny.cc/K6q6s 

Will 

-----Original Message-----
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Perian Sully
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:13 AM
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Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi everyone:

 

Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
options.

 

I am currently aware of:

Commercial DAMS:

Extensis

Luna Insight

me

 

Open Source DAMS:

OpenEdit

ResourceSpace

Razuna

(Omeka & Wordpress)

 

I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
get a programmer to do that for us.

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
happy to share that list once it's available.

 

~Perian

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org 

http://www.musematic.org 

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org 

 

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From jbedard at artsmia.org  Mon Mar 23 05:11:43 2009
From: jbedard at artsmia.org (John Bedard)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:11:43 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
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As Marla states, we also use Media Bin and we synchronize metadata for images of objects in the collection with our TMS CMS.  We also have store none-object images (e.g., event photography, gallery installations, even our badge photos in it.  We also it to automatically generate derivatives for our web and FTP them to the web server, which is co-located at another site.  And a large number of staff (68 last year) use it to download images in the correct size for various uses such as email, PowerPoint, etc. (over 21,000 downloads last year).  It is probably the system that has the largest number of users here at the MIA.
 
John
 
 
 
John R. Bedard  |  Director of Information Systems
Minneapolis Institute of Arts
2400 Third Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55404

612-870-3268  |  JBedard at artsmia.org  |  www.artsmia.org ( http://www.artsmia.org/ )


>>> "Misunas, Marla" <mmisunas at sfmoma.org> 3/20/2009 11:21 AM >>>
SFMOMA is using MediaBin from Interwoven (which has just been bought by
Autonomy). It is talking with our CMS and after a slow start-up process
seems to be working fine.  There are a number of other museums (Met,
IMA, MIA) using MediaBin, they may want to chime in as well.

The short version is, it's working for us so far but for more details,
contact Layna White.

It'll be interesting to see what you come up with--maybe a compiled list
for the MCN website?


Marla Misunas
Collections Information Manager
Collections Information and Access
San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
415-357-4186 (voice)

Explore Modern Art
www.sfmoma.org/collections 

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Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi Perian, we are investigating this too and I look forward to hearing
more from others on the list.

This link has a good summary (as of 2007/2008 I think) of the commercial
DAMS market and trends: http://tiny.cc/K6q6s 

Will 

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Perian Sully
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:13 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi everyone:



Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
options.



I am currently aware of:

Commercial DAMS:

Extensis

Luna Insight

me



Open Source DAMS:

OpenEdit

ResourceSpace

Razuna

(Omeka & Wordpress)



I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
get a programmer to do that for us.



Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
happy to share that list once it's available.



~Perian



Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org ( http://www.magnes.org/ )

http://www.musematic.org ( http://www.musematic.org/ )

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org ( http://www.mediaandtechnology.org/ )



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From Erik_Landsberg at moma.org  Mon Mar 23 06:47:00 2009
From: Erik_Landsberg at moma.org (Landsberg, Erik)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:47:00 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options
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Message-ID: <C5ED1924.27A58%Erik_Landsberg@moma.org>

MoMA is using NetXposure Image Portal http://www.netx.net/
It is SQL based and browser accessed. After much internal work, our database
administrator has it nicely plumbed to TMS.
Our DAM currently holds 60,000 images of collection objects and we are now
beginning to load another 18,000 installation views. We?ve done an initial
limited roll out with good response and further tweaking, and we officially
launch the program on April 6.
The interface has something of a beta feel, although getting better.
Although the vendor has limited experience with cultural heritage
institutions they have, sometimes slowly, responded to our needs. This
solution was considerably less expensive than going with the DAM
frontrunners.

Erik Landsberg
Head of Collections Imaging
The Museum of Modern Art
11 West 53 Street, New York, NY 10019
212-708-9489
erik_landsberg at moma.org
www.moma.org


From: James Stevenson <j.stevenson at vam.ac.uk>
Reply-To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:34:23 -0400
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Can I bring your attention to Asset Index+ from SSL

www.ssl.co.uk

This is a UK based system but they have a lot of experience of working in
the cultural heritage sector.

Regards

James Stevenson
Photographic Manager
Victoria and Albert Museum
South Kensington
London
UK

tel +44 (0) 207 942 2545
fax +44 (0) 207 942 2746

www.vam.ac.uk

>>> "Real, Will" <RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org> 20/03/2009 15:23 >>>
Hi Perian, we are investigating this too and I look forward to hearing
more from others on the list.

This link has a good summary (as of 2007/2008 I think) of the commercial
DAMS market and trends: http://tiny.cc/K6q6s

Will

-----Original Message-----
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Perian Sully
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:13 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Need a list of DAMS options

Hi everyone:



Sorry if this is a redundant question, but we're sticking our toe into
DAMS territory soon and I'm being asked to outline all of the various
options.



I am currently aware of:

Commercial DAMS:

Extensis

Luna Insight

me



Open Source DAMS:

OpenEdit

ResourceSpace

Razuna

(Omeka & Wordpress)



I'm specifically looking for the range of products available, along with
reviews. We're trying to figure out how to get the DAMS to talk to our
CIS (IDEA at ALM, which uses MS SQL and does have some sort of API
available with it, so it should be do-able), but we'll likely need to
get a programmer to do that for us.



Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to reply to me offlist. I'll
be setting up a Google Docs to organize the information, and I'd be
happy to share that list once it's available.



~Perian



Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org



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From sivia.sadofsky at ubc.ca  Mon Mar 23 10:24:52 2009
From: sivia.sadofsky at ubc.ca (Sivia Sadofsky)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:24:52 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Job posting - Systems Integration Analyst
Message-ID: <C5ED2204.3B70%sivia.sadofsky@ubc.ca>

The Museum of Anthropology at UBC is seeking a Systems Integration Analyst
for a term position of nearly a year.   See posting and application process
at: http://www.hr.ubc.ca/careers/staff_postings.html

Please pass the word to those who may be interested.

Thank you,

Sivia Sadofsky
Technology Program Manager
UBC Museum of Anthropology
604-827-3161
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Http://www.moa.ubc.ca



From robin at mediacombo.net  Mon Mar 23 13:46:04 2009
From: robin at mediacombo.net (Robin White)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:46:04 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] desktop application - solutions!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1237752002.2247.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
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Thanks very much to Ari and the others who responded offline. It seems  
that there are two programs that will capture the audio data so it can  
be sent to the local web server: Flex and Max will both do this. We're  
going with a Max solution because I feel more confident that it will  
work. I hope this is helpful to others too.
On Mar 22, 2009, at 4:00 PM, mcn-l-request at mcn.edu wrote:

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>   2. IP SIG: MDA lobbying for copyright exceptions for museums
>      (UK) (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet at imj.org.il])
>   3. re desktop applications and Susan's idea for conference	round
>      up (Robin White)
>   4. Re: re desktop applications and Susan's idea for conference
>      round up (Ari Davidow)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:52:38 +0200
> From: "Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet at imj.org.il]" <akeshet at imj.org.il>
> Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG:  Vancouver Olympics [Mis] Using Copyright
> 	Law?
> To: "'mcn-l at mcn.edu'" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A8C at mailsrv.imj.org.il>
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>
> Just a bit of morning warm-up excercise for the Olypmpian copyright  
> battles:
>
>
>
> Vancouver Olympics Using Copyright Law (Rather Than Scalping Laws)  
> To Ban Ticket Reselling
>
> http://techdirt.com/articles/20090319/1850154187.shtml
>
>
> ...Obviously, that's got nothing to do with the purpose of copyright  
> law, but when you grant silly monopolies, don't be surprised when  
> they're abused.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:32:10 +0200
> From: "Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet at imj.org.il]" <akeshet at imj.org.il>
> Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: MDA lobbying for copyright exceptions for
> 	museums	(UK)
> To: "'mcn-l at mcn.edu'" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443A92 at mailsrv.imj.org.il>
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>
> A couple of interesting and important documents for museums anywhere  
> are available at http://www.collectionslink.org.uk/get_to_grips_with_copyright
>
> For context:
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> UK Intellectual Property Office Consultation Offers Hope for Museums
> http://www.collectionstrust.org.uk/pr080110
>
> Following discussions with MDA and other sector bodies, the UK  
> Intellectual Property Office has launched a Copyright Exceptions  
> Consultation which could significantly simplify the management of  
> collections for museums.
>
> Launched on the 8th January at the British Library, the Consultation  
> builds on the 2006 Gowers Review of Intellectual Property which  
> proposed a number of modifications to existing rules to improve  
> access to and use of copyright material.
>
> MDA has lobbied for two specific exceptions to copyright law, both  
> of which are included in the Consultation document. These are:
>
> The ability for museums to make copies of works in their collections  
> for the purposes of preservation
> Exemptions concerning the copying of parody-style works
>
> Naomi Korn, MDA IP Officer commented, 'MDA welcomes the inclusion of  
> these potential exemptions in the Copyright Exemption Consultation  
> document. Being able to copy works for preservation purposes would  
> help the sector conserve their collections in perpetuity for the  
> benefit of the nation. The exemption for parody-style works would  
> mean that curators could handle these sometime complex works in  
> confidence.
>
> MDA is working closely with the UK Intellectual Property Office and  
> others to ensure that museums can make the most of their collections  
> for their users while minimising the potential for infringing  
> copyright.'
>
> The Copyright Exemptions Consultation runs to April 2008, and a copy  
> of the full document is available to download at www.ipo.gov.uk/consult-copyrightexceptions.htm 
> .
>
> Museums interested in MDA's work on Copyright can download a copy of  
> the Intellectual Property Manifesto at www.collectionslink.org.uk/get_to_grips_with_copyright 
> .
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Amalyah Keshet
> Chair, MCN IP SIG
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:58:11 -0400
> From: Robin White <robin at mediacombo.net>
> Subject: [MCN-L] re desktop applications and Susan's idea for
> 	conference	round up
> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> Message-ID: <98C281E2-F77B-4349-B175-89663D50EE25 at mediacombo.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Thank you to Mark Paradis and Ari for your thoughtful suggestions. We
> can't use a web interface here - the park only has dial up  
> connections!
>
> Susan,
> I'd love to hear about SXSWi, Webwise and ASTC for sure.
>
> Best,
>
> Robin
>
> Robin White Owen
> Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
> M: 917/407-7641
> T: 646/472-5145
> E: robin at mediacombo.net
> www.mediacombo.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:23:49 -0400
> From: Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] re desktop applications and Susan's idea for
> 	conference	round up
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<747cfaf50903220823m2e6893daufcf0dd15583ef145 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Robin,
>
> There is nothing to stop you from running a local web server, on the
> computer that your visitors will be using at the park. You could, at
> your discretion, mirror new daily content overnight to a site more
> easily accessible, but that may not be the point.
>
> I have Apache (as one example) and a database (MySQL) running on my
> laptop all the time as part of my personal development environment so
> that I don't need to be on the Internet to work on web issues. No
> reason not to take advantage of the plethora of web technology
> available and set up a similar local solution for your visitors.
>
> ari
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Robin White <robin at mediacombo.net>  
> wrote:
>> Thank you to Mark Paradis and Ari for your thoughtful suggestions. We
>> can't use a web interface here - the park only has dial up  
>> connections!
>>
>> Susan,
>> I'd love to hear about SXSWi, Webwise and ASTC for sure.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> Robin White Owen
>> Web 2.0 Strategy & Implementation
>> M: 917/407-7641
>> T: 646/472-5145
>> E: robin at mediacombo.net
>> www.mediacombo.net
>>
>>
>>
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From dzorich at mindspring.com  Mon Mar 23 14:34:30 2009
From: dzorich at mindspring.com (Diane M. Zorich)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:34:30 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Are you in the Cloud?
Message-ID: <p06200706c5edbe280a33@[10.0.1.200]>

For those of you using various Google apps for your museum functions 
(or even personal use), this could make things very interesting....


Privacy activist asks FTC to halt Google apps

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10198740-38.html





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From Emma.Jones at awm.gov.au  Mon Mar 23 15:18:02 2009
From: Emma.Jones at awm.gov.au (Emma Jones)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:18:02 +1100
Subject: [MCN-L]  Need a list of DAMS options
Message-ID: <C4FD660BE30AC54CB1C628D0E50EB0910659B8FD0D@EXPOCS.awm.gov.au>

Hi Perian,
We are in the middle of implementing our new DAMS (interwoven MEDIABIN) along with a suite of other applications, hardware etc. Happy to talk to you off list (sorry guys, commercial confidentiality blah blah). Email me and I'll let you know where we're up to etc.
Emma

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Australian War Memorial
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From stanorchard at mac.com  Mon Mar 23 16:03:16 2009
From: stanorchard at mac.com (Stan Orchard)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:03:16 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Are you in the Cloud?
In-Reply-To: <p06200706c5edbe280a33@[10.0.1.200]>
References: <p06200706c5edbe280a33@[10.0.1.200]>
Message-ID: <9040F17D-ED1B-4241-88C1-306B5CC1E9B6@mac.com>

This:

"As an additional punishment, EPIC wants Google to be forced to pay $5  
million into a "public fund" that it and like-minded advocacy groups  
could financially benefit from."

Sad. It seems to be always about the money.



On Mar 23, 2009, at 3/23/093:34 PM, Diane M. Zorich wrote:

> For those of you using various Google apps for your museum functions
> (or even personal use), this could make things very interesting....
>
>
> Privacy activist asks FTC to halt Google apps
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10198740-38.html
>
>
>
>
>
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From RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org  Tue Mar 24 06:26:27 2009
From: RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org (Real, Will)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:26:27 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
In-Reply-To: <49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local><04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
	<49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>

If any of you are involved in complex cataloguing questions, especially for contemporary art, and enjoy puzzling over them for inordinate amounts of time, here is a conundrum for you. How would you approach a situation like this?

The artist created a work specifically for a temporary exhibition. The original work was projected video imagery on the fa?ades of the museum building. We created a full catalogue record in our collections system for this work. Subsequently the artist created a derivative version of the piece to be offered for sale through the artist's gallery, in an edition of 4. The museum is acquiring edition 1/4 this work. It consists of the same imagery as the original, but it has been re-edited, has acquired a sound track, and is designed primarily as an indoors single-channel video projection. However, in our museum's case, the artist is permitting the work to be shown again as an outside projection on the museum fa?ades exactly as the original work was, as well as indoors as a single-channel projection.

It may also be significant that the original work was created under severe time constraints and the artist viewed it more or less as a work in progress. But it had to be shown in the exhibition in an "unfinished" state because the artist simply ran out of time.

Essentially our options are 1) create a separate catalogue record for the new derivative work, or 2) treat both the original projection and the derivative piece as two "manifestations" of a single "work" (loosely following FRBR concepts).

I suppose a broader question is, do any of you follow FRBR concepts when cataloguing works of this nature?

If this is too esoteric for the list, feel free to respond off-list.

Thanks,

Will Real
Carnegie Museum of Art


From dzorich at mindspring.com  Tue Mar 24 07:34:57 2009
From: dzorich at mindspring.com (Diane M. Zorich)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:34:57 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
In-Reply-To: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseu
	ms.Org>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local><04EFDDC9208D114
	890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
	<49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk>
	<04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseu
	ms.Org>
Message-ID: <p06200702c5eeacf1bf4e@[10.0.1.200]>

Will,

You should post this question to the Visual 
Resources Listserv (VRA-L at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU). 
VRA is full of cataloging nerds (I mean that in 
the nicest way - they are amazing) who deal with 
and debate these kind of cataloging issues all 
the time.

Diane



>If any of you are involved in complex 
>cataloguing questions, especially for 
>contemporary art, and enjoy puzzling over them 
>for inordinate amounts of time, here is a 
>conundrum for you. How would you approach a 
>situation like this?
>
>The artist created a work specifically for a 
>temporary exhibition. The original work was 
>projected video imagery on the fa?ades of the 
>museum building. We created a full catalogue 
>record in our collections system for this work. 
>Subsequently the artist created a derivative 
>version of the piece to be offered for sale 
>through the artist's gallery, in an edition of 
>4. The museum is acquiring edition 1/4 this 
>work. It consists of the same imagery as the 
>original, but it has been re-edited, has 
>acquired a sound track, and is designed 
>primarily as an indoors single-channel video 
>projection. However, in our museum's case, the 
>artist is permitting the work to be shown again 
>as an outside projection on the museum fa?ades 
>exactly as the original work was, as well as 
>indoors as a single-channel projection.
>
>It may also be significant that the original 
>work was created under severe time constraints 
>and the artist viewed it more or less as a work 
>in progress. But it had to be shown in the 
>exhibition in an "unfinished" state because the 
>artist simply ran out of time.
>
>Essentially our options are 1) create a separate 
>catalogue record for the new derivative work, or 
>2) treat both the original projection and the 
>derivative piece as two "manifestations" of a 
>single "work" (loosely following FRBR concepts).
>
>I suppose a broader question is, do any of you 
>follow FRBR concepts when cataloguing works of 
>this nature?
>
>If this is too esoteric for the list, feel free to respond off-list.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Will Real
>Carnegie Museum of Art
>
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From akeshet at netvision.net.il  Tue Mar 24 09:29:49 2009
From: akeshet at netvision.net.il (Amalyah Keshet)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:49 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
In-Reply-To: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local>
	<04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
	<49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk>
	<04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
Message-ID: <f5e6dee79997.49c934ad@netvision.net.il>

I'm not a cataloging nerd (although I've been called worse names), but I tend to look at it this way:
what is the basic (physical, if possible) thing that's being catalogued?  Its manifestations or uses or projections or permutations or interpretations may be many and varied, but the thing catalogued is a CD or a DVD or a hard disk or a website sitting on a specific server, or some such ...thing, even if the work is digital.  It's where the work lives.  

Or think of it this way: if the work is ever stolen and you need to report it to the police, what would you want to recover?  The manifestation?  The projection? No -- you'd want the thing that embodies the work and makes it manifestable or projectable.  That's the work that's in the collection.  The rest belongs in the "Description" field.  

You say you are acquiring edition 1/4 of the work.  That's pretty concrete right there.  That definition would replace the former, temporary catalog record, I would think -- that old record is now "exhibition history"  or even "provenance."  And the permitted "manifestations" would, again, appear in the "Description" field, or some other free text field.  

Now all the real catalogers out there can take apart everything I've just written. 

Amalyah Keshet


----- Original Message -----
From: "Real, Will" <RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org>
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 16:28
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>

> If any of you are involved in complex cataloguing questions, 
> especially for contemporary art, and enjoy puzzling over them for 
> inordinate amounts of time, here is a conundrum for you. How would 
> you approach a situation like this?
> 
> The artist created a work specifically for a temporary exhibition. 
> The original work was projected video imagery on the fa?ades of the 
> museum building. We created a full catalogue record in our 
> collections system for this work. Subsequently the artist created a 
> derivative version of the piece to be offered for sale through the 
> artist's gallery, in an edition of 4. The museum is acquiring 
> edition 1/4 this work. It consists of the same imagery as the 
> original, but it has been re-edited, has acquired a sound track, 
> and is designed primarily as an indoors single-channel video 
> projection. However, in our museum's case, the artist is permitting 
> the work to be shown again as an outside projection on the museum 
> fa?ades exactly as the original work was, as well as indoors as a 
> single-channel projection.
> 
> It may also be significant that the original work was created under 
> severe time constraints and the artist viewed it more or less as a 
> work in progress. But it had to be shown in the exhibition in an 
> "unfinished" state because the artist simply ran out of time.
> 
> Essentially our options are 1) create a separate catalogue record 
> for the new derivative work, or 2) treat both the original 
> projection and the derivative piece as two "manifestations" of a 
> single "work" (loosely following FRBR concepts).
> 
> I suppose a broader question is, do any of you follow FRBR concepts 
> when cataloguing works of this nature?
> 
> If this is too esoteric for the list, feel free to respond off-list.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Will Real
> Carnegie Museum of Art
> 
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From aridavidow at gmail.com  Tue Mar 24 12:03:13 2009
From: aridavidow at gmail.com (Ari Davidow)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:03:13 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website
Message-ID: <747cfaf50903241303x2a391141i6667139e4b2df70b@mail.gmail.com>

We are exploring using Flickr and our website in tandem. I thought I
remembered that Flickr provided all sorts of neat templates for taking
our content from Flickr and posting it to our website. Instead (as I
might have expected had I thought about it) I am seeing only flickr
badges. Has anyone come up with a nifty way to share content between
their website (we use Drupal if that helps) and Flickr such that the
same images don't have to have metdata attached twice?

ari

From cathryng at Princeton.EDU  Tue Mar 24 12:17:51 2009
From: cathryng at Princeton.EDU (Cathryn Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:17:51 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
In-Reply-To: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local><04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org><49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk>
	<04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
Message-ID: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB2158967022579E7@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>

I'll give it a shot - 

Will - did you accession the original piece, or does it remain in your collection as a commissioned/unaccessioned work?

I would consider the original piece a 'proof' of the second piece.  Likely to be important in understanding the artist's process and the actual work that was in your exhibition.  I would link the two records in a 'see also' way.

Then I would obtain whatever evidence possible of the artist's intent in both versions of the work - to document the differences between the two.

cathryn



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Real, Will
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:26 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds

If any of you are involved in complex cataloguing questions, especially for contemporary art, and enjoy puzzling over them for inordinate amounts of time, here is a conundrum for you. How would you approach a situation like this?

The artist created a work specifically for a temporary exhibition. The original work was projected video imagery on the fa?ades of the museum building. We created a full catalogue record in our collections system for this work. Subsequently the artist created a derivative version of the piece to be offered for sale through the artist's gallery, in an edition of 4. The museum is acquiring edition 1/4 this work. It consists of the same imagery as the original, but it has been re-edited, has acquired a sound track, and is designed primarily as an indoors single-channel video projection. However, in our museum's case, the artist is permitting the work to be shown again as an outside projection on the museum fa?ades exactly as the original work was, as well as indoors as a single-channel projection.

It may also be significant that the original work was created under severe time constraints and the artist viewed it more or less as a work in progress. But it had to be shown in the exhibition in an "unfinished" state because the artist simply ran out of time.

Essentially our options are 1) create a separate catalogue record for the new derivative work, or 2) treat both the original projection and the derivative piece as two "manifestations" of a single "work" (loosely following FRBR concepts).

I suppose a broader question is, do any of you follow FRBR concepts when cataloguing works of this nature?

If this is too esoteric for the list, feel free to respond off-list.

Thanks,

Will Real
Carnegie Museum of Art

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From afox at famsf.org  Tue Mar 24 12:37:21 2009
From: afox at famsf.org (Andrew Fox)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:37:21 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website
References: <747cfaf50903241303x2a391141i6667139e4b2df70b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64473BD5889D334FAE11AA8C3C726370065DA0@dymail.famsf.org>

The Flickr badges are of limited use. You can embed the new Flickr slideshows in your HTML content; they're way more flexible and versatile than the badges. I've also used the Drupal Flickr module with some success. There's another that I haven't tried called Flickr Attach that looks promising.

Andrew Fox
Webmaster
Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
de Young Museum
50 Hagiwara Tea Garden Drive
San Francisco, CA 94118
415.750.3615 voice
415-750-7692 fax

de Young
Legion of Honor

http://www.thinker.org



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu on behalf of Ari Davidow
Sent: Tue 3/24/2009 1:03 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website
 
We are exploring using Flickr and our website in tandem. I thought I
remembered that Flickr provided all sorts of neat templates for taking
our content from Flickr and posting it to our website. Instead (as I
might have expected had I thought about it) I am seeing only flickr
badges. Has anyone come up with a nifty way to share content between
their website (we use Drupal if that helps) and Flickr such that the
same images don't have to have metdata attached twice?

ari
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From JOttevanger at museumoflondon.org.uk  Tue Mar 24 12:41:47 2009
From: JOttevanger at museumoflondon.org.uk (Ottevanger, Jeremy)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:41:47 -0000
Subject: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website
References: <747cfaf50903241303x2a391141i6667139e4b2df70b@mail.gmail.com>
	<64473BD5889D334FAE11AA8C3C726370065DA0@dymail.famsf.org>
Message-ID: <CBE3ED7D5509D54F9C4E1D614931DF0E222751@mail-mwh-2k3.museumoflondon.org.uk>

And if you fancy digging into the Flickr API the world is your oyster. Raymond Yee's book (something with "mashup" in the title, it's upstairs and I'm not) looks at Flickr extensively, it having pretty much the best API out there from the social software sites (in his view). I know these things go out of date pretty fast but I'd recommend checking it out.
 
Cheers, Jeremy

________________________________

From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu on behalf of Andrew Fox
Sent: Tue 24/03/2009 20:37
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website



The Flickr badges are of limited use. You can embed the new Flickr slideshows in your HTML content; they're way more flexible and versatile than the badges. I've also used the Drupal Flickr module with some success. There's another that I haven't tried called Flickr Attach that looks promising.

Andrew Fox
Webmaster
Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
de Young Museum
50 Hagiwara Tea Garden Drive
San Francisco, CA 94118
415.750.3615 voice
415-750-7692 fax

de Young
Legion of Honor

http://www.thinker.org <http://www.thinker.org/> 



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu on behalf of Ari Davidow
Sent: Tue 3/24/2009 1:03 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website

We are exploring using Flickr and our website in tandem. I thought I
remembered that Flickr provided all sorts of neat templates for taking
our content from Flickr and posting it to our website. Instead (as I
might have expected had I thought about it) I am seeing only flickr
badges. Has anyone come up with a nifty way to share content between
their website (we use Drupal if that helps) and Flickr such that the
same images don't have to have metdata attached twice?

ari
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From JOttevanger at museumoflondon.org.uk  Tue Mar 24 12:53:05 2009
From: JOttevanger at museumoflondon.org.uk (Ottevanger, Jeremy)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:53:05 -0000
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local><04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org><49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk><04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
	<85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB2158967022579E7@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <CBE3ED7D5509D54F9C4E1D614931DF0E222752@mail-mwh-2k3.museumoflondon.org.uk>

Following up on Cathryn's last point, perhaps the Variable Media Network approach has something to offer here. It's nominally about the preservation of variable media but really, by focussing on what's significant in a work (working with the artist where possible), it's probably great for documentation problems like this. 
 
Jeremy
 
http://variablemedia.net/e/welcome.html
Their publication "Permanence through change": http://www.variablemedia.net/e/preserving/html/var_pub_index.html

________________________________

From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu on behalf of Cathryn Goodwin
Sent: Tue 24/03/2009 20:17
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds



I'll give it a shot -

Will - did you accession the original piece, or does it remain in your collection as a commissioned/unaccessioned work?

I would consider the original piece a 'proof' of the second piece.  Likely to be important in understanding the artist's process and the actual work that was in your exhibition.  I would link the two records in a 'see also' way.

Then I would obtain whatever evidence possible of the artist's intent in both versions of the work - to document the differences between the two.

cathryn



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Real, Will
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:26 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds

If any of you are involved in complex cataloguing questions, especially for contemporary art, and enjoy puzzling over them for inordinate amounts of time, here is a conundrum for you. How would you approach a situation like this?

The artist created a work specifically for a temporary exhibition. The original work was projected video imagery on the fa?ades of the museum building. We created a full catalogue record in our collections system for this work. Subsequently the artist created a derivative version of the piece to be offered for sale through the artist's gallery, in an edition of 4. The museum is acquiring edition 1/4 this work. It consists of the same imagery as the original, but it has been re-edited, has acquired a sound track, and is designed primarily as an indoors single-channel video projection. However, in our museum's case, the artist is permitting the work to be shown again as an outside projection on the museum fa?ades exactly as the original work was, as well as indoors as a single-channel projection.

It may also be significant that the original work was created under severe time constraints and the artist viewed it more or less as a work in progress. But it had to be shown in the exhibition in an "unfinished" state because the artist simply ran out of time.

Essentially our options are 1) create a separate catalogue record for the new derivative work, or 2) treat both the original projection and the derivative piece as two "manifestations" of a single "work" (loosely following FRBR concepts).

I suppose a broader question is, do any of you follow FRBR concepts when cataloguing works of this nature?

If this is too esoteric for the list, feel free to respond off-list.

Thanks,

Will Real
Carnegie Museum of Art

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From kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org  Tue Mar 24 13:46:41 2009
From: kaia at mesahistoricalmuseum.org (Kaia Landon)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:46:41 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] from flickr to our website
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My recollection is that their is a Flickr module for Drupal that does all
sorts of nifty things.  See
http://drupal.org/project/modules?text=flickrfor the options.
Kaia

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com> wrote:

> We are exploring using Flickr and our website in tandem. I thought I
> remembered that Flickr provided all sorts of neat templates for taking
> our content from Flickr and posting it to our website. Instead (as I
> might have expected had I thought about it) I am seeing only flickr
> badges. Has anyone come up with a nifty way to share content between
> their website (we use Drupal if that helps) and Flickr such that the
> same images don't have to have metdata attached twice?
>
> ari
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From Jay at GallerySystems.com  Tue Mar 24 14:17:32 2009
From: Jay at GallerySystems.com (Jay Hoffman)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:17:32 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds
References: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B647EC4@jlm-net.jlm.local><04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB19104021@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org><49C773C0.ABAA.00EA.0@vam.ac.uk><04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB191AB77A@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
	<85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB2158967022579E7@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8C6B7E6@gsml.gallerysystems.com>

Will - I'll take a shot at the nerd challenge too:

The first object:

It is unique and should remain as a separate catalogued object record, with the appropriate exhibition history, acquisition information, description (including its work-in-process nature), and full links and relationships, etc.

The physical "object" is really just a carrier. You may have backup copies and a digital preservation plan, but the disc itself is not the object. You will track the location(s) of the carrier(s), but they are not intellectual in nature.

The second object:

This is not unique. As you described it, it is part of a limited edition. It is also different from the first in that the video work was further edited and modified by the artist, sound track added, and has different exhibition criteria. You might think of this as a different state (similar to a limited edition Picasso print with a different state).

It should be catalogued separately from the first with the appropriate exhibition history, special permissions by the artist and anything else that can be stored as archival information, acquisition info, etc., and the location(s) of the carrier(s) will be tracked. If permitted, it may even be interesting to have a video of the video work being exhibited on the building fa?ades to record the exhibition/realization of the work in this special situation for historical archive purposes.

The records of the first and the second works should be related to each other in your collections information system, probably in a sibling relationship (e.g. "is state of" or "see also"), as Cathryn suggests, as opposed to a parent-child relationship. It sounds like the second work is not so much a derivative work as a different state, as mentioned above.

I can't expound much on the FRBR aspect of your question, other than to say that maintaining as many links and relationships for discovery and navigation would be consistent with this bibliographic standard.

Best,

Jay


Jay Hoffman, CEO
Gallery Systems
261 West 35th Street, 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001

jay at gallerysystems.com
+1.646.733.2733

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Cathryn Goodwin
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:18 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds

I'll give it a shot - 

Will - did you accession the original piece, or does it remain in your collection as a commissioned/unaccessioned work?

I would consider the original piece a 'proof' of the second piece.  Likely to be important in understanding the artist's process and the actual work that was in your exhibition.  I would link the two records in a 'see also' way.

Then I would obtain whatever evidence possible of the artist's intent in both versions of the work - to document the differences between the two.

cathryn



-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Real, Will
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:26 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Calling all cataloguing nerds

If any of you are involved in complex cataloguing questions, especially for contemporary art, and enjoy puzzling over them for inordinate amounts of time, here is a conundrum for you. How would you approach a situation like this?

The artist created a work specifically for a temporary exhibition. The original work was projected video imagery on the fa?ades of the museum building. We created a full catalogue record in our collections system for this work. Subsequently the artist created a derivative version of the piece to be offered for sale through the artist's gallery, in an edition of 4. The museum is acquiring edition 1/4 this work. It consists of the same imagery as the original, but it has been re-edited, has acquired a sound track, and is designed primarily as an indoors single-channel video projection. However, in our museum's case, the artist is permitting the work to be shown again as an outside projection on the museum fa?ades exactly as the original work was, as well as indoors as a single-channel projection.

It may also be significant that the original work was created under severe time constraints and the artist viewed it more or less as a work in progress. But it had to be shown in the exhibition in an "unfinished" state because the artist simply ran out of time.

Essentially our options are 1) create a separate catalogue record for the new derivative work, or 2) treat both the original projection and the derivative piece as two "manifestations" of a single "work" (loosely following FRBR concepts).

I suppose a broader question is, do any of you follow FRBR concepts when cataloguing works of this nature?

If this is too esoteric for the list, feel free to respond off-list.

Thanks,

Will Real
Carnegie Museum of Art

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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Wed Mar 25 03:21:51 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:21:51 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Internet law expert Susan Crawford to join Obama
 adminstration
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443B02@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

http://techdailydose.nationaljournal.com/2009/03/onewebday-founder-tapped-by-ob.php

Internet law expert Susan Crawford has joined PresidentBarack Obama's lineup of tech policy experts at the White House, according to several sources. She will likely hold the title of special assistant to the president for science, technology, and innovation policy .


From krichter at Princeton.EDU  Wed Mar 25 07:30:14 2009
From: krichter at Princeton.EDU (Karen E. Richter)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:30:14 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
Message-ID: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB215896702257DB8@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>

Hello,
 
I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm
considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information
about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Karen
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Tel.  609 258 5828
Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 

From gosed at ccp.library.arizona.edu  Wed Mar 25 07:38:48 2009
From: gosed at ccp.library.arizona.edu (Gose, Denise)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:38:48 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
In-Reply-To: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB215896702257DB8@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>
References: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB215896702257DB8@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <26C6B0CCB6892843849BE72624C9D12E054B515A@medusa.library.arizona.edu>

I would love to hear a response to the question on-list. I'm guessing quite a few of us have either been approached, or are working with one of these agencies. We're not, but we've considered it.

Thank you.

Denise Gos?
Rights and Reproductions Manager
Center for Creative Photography
1030 N. Olive Road, Tucson, AZ 85721
T: 520.307.2830  F: 520.621.9444
 

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Karen E. Richter
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:30 AM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies

Hello,
 
I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm
considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information
about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Karen
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Tel.  609 258 5828
Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 
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From jims at ideum.com  Wed Mar 25 08:26:13 2009
From: jims at ideum.com (Jim Spadaccini)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:26:13 -0600
Subject: [MCN-L] Survey on Computer-Based Interactive Exhibits
Message-ID: <14E72B5B-4487-4B6A-88FE-B4C45B96C864@ideum.com>

Everyone,

We are resubmitting a grant proposal to fund Open Exhibits, a project  
that will allow us to develop, test, and disseminate open source  
software built specifically for museum exhibits.

The Open Exhibits software, templates, modules, source code, training  
opportunities, and prototype exhibits will be made freely available to  
museums. The exhibits will be built using Adobe Flash (ActionScript 3  
and Flex). We are planning on building-in support for multitouch  
gestures and multiuser applications. We also intend to build-in  
support for external devices such as sensors, cameras, buttons, and  
unusual displays.

Once again, we are seeking feedback from other museum professionals so  
we can tailor our project to meet the needs of the field. We have put  
together a survey to help us assess those needs: to gain insight into  
the state of computer-based interactive exhibits in a variety of  
museums, to gauge interest in the Open Exhibits software, and to  
better understand museums? technical expertise and constraints.

We will gladly share the results with anyone who completes the survey.  
Anyone from any type of museum or informal educational organization is  
encouraged to respond.

You can take the survey and learn more about the project at: http://www.openexhibits.org

Thanks for your help and participation.

Jim Spadaccini



Jim Spadaccini
Ideum "ideas + media"
4895 1/2 Corrales Road
Corrales, NM 87048
phone: 505-792-1110
portfolio & blog:  http://www.ideum.com
museum blogs & podcasts: http://www.museumblogs.org
Have you seen our multitouch table?
http://www.ideum.com/products/multitouch.html


From virginiarutledge at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 25 09:05:00 2009
From: virginiarutledge at yahoo.com (Virginia Rutledge)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
Message-ID: <580177.8813.qm@web39706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It would be interesting to know which institutions on this list claim and/or recognize copyright in photographs of paintings and other two-dimensional works that are themselves in the public domain.

Virginia Rutledge
Chair, Art Law Committee, New York City Bar Association

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Gose, Denise <gosed at ccp.library.arizona.edu> wrote:

From: Gose, Denise <gosed at ccp.library.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 8:38 AM

I would love to hear a response to the question on-list. I'm guessing quite a few of us have either been approached, or are working with one of these agencies. We're not, but we've considered it.

Thank you.

Denise Gos?
Rights and Reproductions Manager
Center for Creative Photography
1030 N. Olive Road, Tucson, AZ 85721
T: 520.307.2830? F: 520.621.9444
 

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Karen E. Richter
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:30 AM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies

Hello,
 
I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.? I'm
considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
Bridgeman Art Library.? Would any of you be willing to share information
about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
contract?? Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
versus the other?? Feel free to respond to me off-list.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Karen
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Tel.? 609 258 5828
Fax? 609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 
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From krichter at Princeton.EDU  Wed Mar 25 09:49:42 2009
From: krichter at Princeton.EDU (Karen E. Richter)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:49:42 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies-2nd email
Message-ID: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB215896702257F0C@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>

Sorry, I forgot to include my email address so that you can respond to
me off-list.
 
krichter at princeton.edu <blocked::mailto:krichter at princeton.edu> 
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Email  krichter at princeton.edu
Tel.  609 258 5828   Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 

________________________________

From: Karen E. Richter 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:30 AM
To: 'mcn-l at mcn.edu'
Subject: Stock photo companies


Hello,
 
I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm
considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information
about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Karen
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Tel.  609 258 5828
Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Thu Mar 26 01:14:03 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:14:03 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies-2nd email
In-Reply-To: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB215896702257F0C@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443B17@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Responses on-list would be greatly appreciated by the MCN community, I'm sure.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Karen E. Richter
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:50 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies-2nd email

Sorry, I forgot to include my email address so that you can respond to me off-list.
 
krichter at princeton.edu <blocked::mailto:krichter at princeton.edu> 
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Email  krichter at princeton.edu
Tel.  609 258 5828   Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 

________________________________

From: Karen E. Richter
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:30 AM
To: 'mcn-l at mcn.edu'
Subject: Stock photo companies


Hello,
 
I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm
considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information
about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Karen
 
Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Tel.  609 258 5828
Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 
 
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From john.ffrench at yale.edu  Thu Mar 26 11:45:12 2009
From: john.ffrench at yale.edu (Ffrench, John)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:45:12 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock Photo Companies
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1238097602.15668.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Message-ID: <C5F15388.2473%john.ffrench@yale.edu>

The Yale University Art Gallery works with three 3rd party licensing companies at this time. Art Resource, Scala and DNP Archives. We started out with Art Resource roughly 2-1/2 years ago, and about six months into our AR contract were asked if we'd consider also signing with Scala who cover Europe (Ted Feder of Art Resource has a connection with Scala). We amended our contract to include Scala as well and had to adjust the percentage take for Scala sales. Most recently we have signed on with DNP Archives who are based out of Tokyo.

With all three companies we have made the decision to share the same set of images, this makes tracking of who has what easier for us and given that each company represents a different global region we don't risk direct competition (we are currently researching companies who could represent us in South America). We do not work with Bridgeman mostly due to the request of Art Resource who are direct competitors with Bridgeman; however I do know that the Yale Center for British Art does and they are happy with the relationship.

The images we selected were in part based on images we know are most popular due to the internal Rights and Reproductions requests we have handled of the years, and then also we allowed the companies to select a set of images they felt best covered their clients interest. Currently we have just over 600 of our images being represented and plan to send more once we establish a systematic way to deliver them, or allow them to harvest them from our servers. The Gallery has an internal R&R department which handles requests for images both commercial and scholarly but our hope is to farm off more and more of the commercial requests to these companies so we can focus on scholarly and research related requests.

All-in-all the working relationship has been smooth with each company (DNP is still very new so I don't have a lot to go on yet). The most difficult process was establishing the contract with each organization, which in the case of Yale had to be run past central legal council.

Besides added exposure of the Gallery collection the relationship with each company also generates a respectable income.

I'd be happy to discuss our process' and such in more detail with you if you like. Please feel free to call or e-mail with more questions.

John ff.

*********************
John ffrench
Associate Director, Visual Resources Department
Yale University Art Gallery
203.432.8051

http://artgallery.yale.edu/


________________________________

From: Karen E. Richter
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:30 AM
To: 'mcn-l at mcn.edu'
Subject: Stock photo companies


Hello,

I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm
considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information
about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.

Thanks for your help.

Karen

Karen E. Richter
Image Resources Manager
Princeton University Art Museum
Tel.  609 258 5828
Fax  609 258 6877
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/>

From rjurban at illinois.edu  Thu Mar 26 12:19:55 2009
From: rjurban at illinois.edu (Richard Urban)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:19:55 -0500
Subject: [MCN-L] MCN 2009 Call for Proposals Deadline Extended
References: <19740415012840.F9D007043413CA23@priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <6276EB60-7D3C-4959-AFC5-04925034A77C@illinois.edu>

MCN 37th ANNUAL CONFERENCE
November 11-14th 2009, Portland, Oregon

EXTENDED Proposal Deadline: April 3, 2009

Proposal Submission Forms:

http://www.mcn.edu/conferences/index.asp?subkey=2266

Session proposals are rolling in for MCN 2009; but to give everyone  
some extra
time to pull one together, we have extended the deadline to next  
Friday, April
3. Join us in creating another excellent Museum Computer Network  
conference.
This year's theme is "Museum Information, Museum Efficiency: Doing  
More with
Less!" Three areas of special interest are:

- Serving institutional mission with cost-effective strategies in  
tough economic
  times
- Making, managing, and delivering digital media in new and effective  
ways
- Building the future now: innovations coming soon to a museum near you!

We welcome session proposals on topics including, but not limited to:

  - Technology and Information Management Serving the Institutional  
Bottom Line
  - Digital Readiness, Digital Accomplishments, Digital Accountability  
(Image
    Capture, Digital Asset Management, Best Practices, Preservation,  
Access)
  - Implementing Systems in Adverse Conditions
  - Digital Convergence: Archives, Libraries, and Museums
  - Doing More with Less
  - Leadership, Sustainability, Accountability
  - Social Media
  - Superior Content, Superior Delivery

We look forward to receiving your proposals for panels, papers, case  
studies,
and workshops.

http://www.mcn.edu/conferences/index.asp?subkey=2266

If you have questions or need more information, please contact Holly  
Witchey,
MCN Program Chair, 216-707-2653, hwitchey at clevelandart.org, or  
Christina DePaolo,
MCN Conference Chair, 206 654-3165, christinad at seattleartmuseum.org.



From EDSONM at si.edu  Fri Mar 27 04:02:02 2009
From: EDSONM at si.edu (Edson, Michael)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:02:02 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
Message-ID: <D951A5B5B11E794DBF41A403F83B707103209344@SI-ECL02.US.SINET.SI.EDU>

Re: Virginia's question, I think the Smithsonian is well in the way to having a consistent policy on PD works and the kinds of reproductions of PD works that are relevant to Bridgeman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_Ltd._v._Corel_Corporation> , though I'll admit it's been an enormous stretch to wrap my own head around all the issues and needs/expectations of stakeholders. 

 

Lest I screw it up, I asked Lauryn Guttenplan, our Associate General Counsel, for the bestest and most officialist way of stating the current condition. She says:

"The Smithsonian's statement on the web that it owns copyright in its content is meant to refer to the website as a compilation. Many of the materials on Smithsonian websites are in the public domain, although we do not have a consistent means of specifying, clarifying, labeling or otherwise communicating the rights status of virtually any of the content. There are many groups investigating these issues and, in particular, looking at the way in which we treat public domain works.  Obviously, the Bridgeman decision is a very important factor in determining how we treat digital surrogates of two-dimensional works that are, themselves, in the public domain.  We would hope that a clear policy on public domain works will emerge from this process."

 

...And then we can have a conversation about implementing the policy consistently across the Institution's 28 museums and research centers, plus the National Zoo.

 

 

 

 

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From:                                         mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu on behalf of Virginia Rutledge [virginiarutledge at yahoo.com]

Sent:                                           Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:05 PM

To:                                               Museum Computer Network Listserv

Subject:                                     Re: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies

 

Categories:                              Research

 

It would be interesting to know which institutions on this list claim and/or recognize copyright in photographs of paintings and other two-dimensional works that are themselves in the public domain.

 

Virginia Rutledge

Chair, Art Law Committee, New York City Bar Association

 

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Gose, Denise <gosed at ccp.library.arizona.edu> wrote:

 

From: Gose, Denise <gosed at ccp.library.arizona.edu>

Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies

To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>

Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 8:38 AM

 

I would love to hear a response to the question on-list. I'm guessing quite a few of us have either been approached, or are working with one of these agencies. We're not, but we've considered it.

 

Thank you.

 

Denise Gos?

Rights and Reproductions Manager

Center for Creative Photography

1030 N. Olive Road, Tucson, AZ 85721

T: 520.307.2830  F: 520.621.9444

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Karen E. Richter

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:30 AM

To: mcn-l at mcn.edu

Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies

 

Hello,

 

I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm

considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or

Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information

about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with

these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard

contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you

signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one

versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Karen

 

Karen E. Richter

Image Resources Manager

Princeton University Art Museum

Tel.  609 258 5828

Fax  609 258 6877

http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/> 

 

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From rebecca at earley.com  Fri Mar 27 09:58:15 2009
From: rebecca at earley.com (Rebecca Allen)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:58:15 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] (Event) Content Migration - April 1st Taxonomy Community of
 Practice Call
Message-ID: <1BA1D3B187889949807E12A78D7EA83B6F6A491225@EXMBX04.exchhosting.com>

Invitation
Please join us for our monthly Taxonomy Community of Practice Call. This month's topic is Content Migration.

Date:  Wednesday, April 1, 2009
Time:  1:00 - 2:00 Eastern Time
Cost:  This month's call is complimentary (no charge)

For additional details, visit: http://earley.com/_April2009.asp
To register, please contact Rebecca Allen at rebecca at earley.com or call direct 425-299-5400
You will receive dial-in instructions and slides in advance of the call. 

Session Description
When developing a new content management system, there is always the not so trivial matter of getting your old content into the new system. How is content cleansed, organized, and prepared for migration? What are the tools that can facilitate the process? Who should handle migration and what is the overall plan of attack? What are the costs (direct and indirect) of migration? We'll address these issues through case studies in content migration for new CMS deployments.

Nic Archer and George Knox will present:
"Exploding the Myths of Content Migration: The Case for Automated Migration"

Migrating content is not something that the average content professional will have to undertake frequently, and yet there is a significant reticence towards making the whole process a lot easier - to make the process quicker, cheaper, and less painful through the use of automated tools and support methods. In this session, Vamosa will explore why this could be. We will look at the real and imaginary potholes involved in the tricky exercise of migrating content into a new content management system. To many, the simple ability to access source or target systems may appear to be the biggest challenge, when the real challenges lie in actually choosing what content to move, what modifications need to be made to that content, and how these alterations can be made in a consistent and repeatable fashion. The options for measuring success will also be explored.

Looking at multiple use cases such as AstraZeneca, IBM, and the European Commission (one of the largest SharePoint 2007 migrations), various scenarios will be explored to distill the key success factors including method, choice of tools, and management buy-in. This thought-provoking session will aim to explode the perception that your problem is unique, and show that regardless of the size of the problem or the complexity of the requirement, an automated solution can be crafted to shrink timescales, maximize deliverables, and increase the quality of the content deployed.


Session Presenters
Nic Archer, Senior Vice President, Vamosa

Nic has worked in the software technology sector since graduating from college in 1985. He has extensive experience of large data management systems whilst working with Computer Associates and has worked with some of the world's largest software companies. After receiving his MBA in 2001, Nic helped form the product vision and corporate product strategy for Vamosa. Most recently Nic has been working with many of the Fortune 500 companies advising on how to approach and implement  their content quality and migration strategies.

George Knox, Chief Executive Officer, Vamosa

George has worked successfully for over 15 years in the software technology sector. He held senior positions in the US software giant Computer Associates before setting up various successful software and service companies including Gamut Technologies, Eclectic Group and Vamosa. His background consists of working with large corporate enterprises in the fields of Information Management, Business Intelligence and Data Warehousing. This has given him a unique perspective into the management challenges facing organizations as they grapple with the explosion of business content.

New Turf for Taxonomists?

Richard Beatch's Blog Post:
Electronic Medical Records (EMR) have been receiving a good deal of attention of late. And it is no wonder. Amongst the challenges present in healthcare, both in the U.S.A. and globally, the fact that medical records largely consist of paper files certainly gives us pause. But what, exactly, are the goals of the much talked about EMR initiatives? And, are the approaches being discussed likely to meet those goals?
...

Read more of this post: http://sethearley.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/electronic-medical-records-new-turf-for-taxonomists/ 


Sincerely,

Rebecca Allen
Taxonomy Consultant
_____________________________
EARLEY & ASSOCIATES
Cell: 425-299-5400
Email: rebecca at earley.com
Web: www.earley.com



From Erik_Landsberg at moma.org  Fri Mar 27 13:25:32 2009
From: Erik_Landsberg at moma.org (Landsberg, Erik)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:25:32 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
In-Reply-To: <85A35CF72F0592499E91363FB215896702257DB8@EXCLUSTER.pu.win.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <C5F2BC8C.27C15%Erik_Landsberg@moma.org>

MoMA has licensed it's images through Scala and Art Resource since about
2002. Art Resource handles our North American licensing while Scala handles
all other international image requests.  Davis Art Images markets our images
for educational use in K-12 and increasingly to college/university clients.

Scala/AR handle sales, contracts, coordination of credit line/caption, image
delivery and fee collection. We currently have ~11,000 objects represented
in the Scala/AR inventory. We retain full control regarding usages that are
not standard and preapproved. (Preapproved usage would include reproduction
in an exhibition catalog accompanying a loan, etc.) Non-standard repro
requests are conveyed to our in-house licensing liaison who works with a
small internal committee via email for approval or denial. A decision is
usually relayed to the licensing agency within a few hours.

While I was not responsible for R&R when that department was in-house, from
my POV the arrangement works efficiently with an advantageous balance of
shared revenue to reduced internal costs. The relationship with our
licensing agencies is administered under the Department of Imaging Services.
Where the earlier R&R department depended upon 5-6 staff, we now have 1
person who acts as liaison with our licensing agencies. This staff member,
Jennifer Sellar, is a visual resources librarian who is also responsible for
DAM organizaton, metadata, etc. I posted with some details of our DAM
earlier this week.

Despite the occasional hiccup, by organizing image production, DAM, and
licensing under the umbrella of Imaging Services we have been able to
maintain relatively efficient management of the image process from object
received in the studio, through capture, color correction and archiving, to
image delivered to publisher.

I'm happy to answer more detailed questions off-lilne for anyone who is
interested.

Erik Landsberg
Head of Collections Imaging
The Museum of Modern Art
11 West 53 Street, New York, NY 10019
212-708-9489
erik_landsberg at moma.org
www.moma.org


> From: "Karen E. Richter" <krichter at Princeton.EDU>
> Reply-To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:30:14 -0400
> To: <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Subject: [MCN-L] Stock photo companies
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I'm new to the list and would welcome your responses to this.  I'm
> considering turning over some of our images to Art Resource and/or
> Bridgeman Art Library.  Would any of you be willing to share information
> about your experience, especially your contractual arrangements with
> these companies and any changes you might have made to their standard
> contract?  Also, how did you choose the images you provided, and if you
> signed on to both companies, how did you choose the images for one
> versus the other?  Feel free to respond to me off-list.
>  
> Thanks for your help.
>  
> Karen
>  
> Karen E. Richter
> Image Resources Manager
> Princeton University Art Museum
> Tel.  609 258 5828
> Fax  609 258 6877
> http://artmuseum.princeton.edu <http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/>
>  
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From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sat Mar 28 21:50:46 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:50:46 +0300
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG:  Samuelson speaking on google book search
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443B2D@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

For anyone near the Univ. of North Carolina, this is a must.  The ramifications of the Google Book Settlement go far beyond the concerns of publishers and authors.  


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The legal settlement between authors and book publishers and Google regarding the company's indexing and book scanning project will be the focus of the University of North Carolina's third annual OCLC/Frederick G. Kilgour Lecture in Information and Library Science.

Pamela Samuelson, the Richard M. Sherman '74 Distinguished Professor of Law and Information at the University of California at Berkeley and director of the Berkeley Center for Law & Technology will present "Reflections on the Google Booksearch Settlement" in the Auditorium of the Frank Porter Graham Student Union on the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill campus at 3 p.m. A reception will follow.

The lecture is hosted by the School of Information and Library Science at UNC at Chapel Hill. The event is free and open to the public, however seating is limited. Please send your RSVP via e-mail to mpenny at email.unc.edu or call 919.962.8366.


Bio: 
Pamela Samuelson is the Richard M. Sherman '74 Distinguished Professor of Law and Information at the University of California at Berkeley and a Director of the Berkeley Center for Law & Technology.  She teaches courses on intellectual property, cyberlaw and information privacy.  She has written and spoken extensively about the challenges that new information technologies pose for traditional legal regimes, especially for intellectual property law.  She is a Fellow of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM), a Contributing Editor of Communications of the ACM, a past Fellow of the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and an Honorary Professor of the University of Amsterdam.  She is a member of the Board of Directors of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, as well as a member of the Advisory Boards for the Electronic Privacy Information Center and Public Knowledge.

A 1971 graduate of the University of Hawaii and a 1976 graduate of Yale Law School, Samuelson practiced law as a litigation associate with the New York law firm Willkie Farr & Gallagher before turning to academic pursuits.  From 1981 through June 1996 she was a member of the faculty at the University of Pittsburgh Law School, from which she visited at Columbia, Cornell, and Emory Law Schools.  She has been a member of the Berkeley faculty since 1996 and was a Visiting Professor at Harvard Law School during the fall term 2007.
________________________________________


Amalyah Keshet
Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
The Israel Museum, Jerusalem

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sat Mar 28 23:08:10 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:08:10 +0300
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: Google Book Search settlement threatens free speech
 in private reading
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443B35@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Follow up / background to my earlier e-mail/



-----Original Message-----

http://laboratorium.net/archive/2009/03/28/speaking_up_on_book_search

"The proposed settlement will have a profound effect on orphan works because the proposed class includes the owners of millions of orphan works. By virtue of their status as orphan works owners - a well-recognized and significant subclass of book copyright owners - they are unlikely to appear before this Court to opt out of or object to the proposed settlement.  Google will therefore be explicitly authorized to make these works available to the public in ways that would be flagrant copyright violations were it not for the proposed settlement.  This authorization will serve the public interest in greater accessibility to orphan works.

"The proposed settlement's effective inclusion of millions of orphan works will also have effects that threaten the public interest. Because potential competitors will be unable to make use of orphan works, Google will enjoy exclusive access to a large portion of the market for electronic versions of  books.
This exclusivity would result in a concentration of market power, thereby facilitating actions that violate the federal antitrust laws. It would also enable Google to impose unfair and overreaching terms on libraries and readers, particularly in ways that would threaten the free speech interest in private reading."

________________________________________

Amalyah Keshet
Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
The Israel Museum, Jerusalem

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Sun Mar 29 04:13:22 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:13:22 +0300
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG: The Google Books Settlement: What will it mean for
 the long-term
Message-ID: <9844AFCBFFF93540889F30E865CEFD781D3B443B4A@mailsrv.imj.org.il>

Very good report from the Conference at Columbia Law School Friday, 13 March, on "The Google Books Settlement: What will it mean for the long-term?<http://kernochancenter.org/Googlebookssettlement.htm>".  If you weren't concerned about the implications of this class action settlement before, you will be after reading this.

------------------------------------------------------------------

"[Register of Copyrights Mary Beth]Peters's talk for me was an illustration of the important issues at stake in the settlement.  We have a regulatory mechanism in place to ensure that works can be used in new and creative ways while at the same time respecting the rights of rights holders.  It is called copyright law.  The Google settlement may make the careful balances found in copyright law (as well as the public procedures to change it) moot, replacing them with private contractual arrangements instead.

...Most disturbing of all was Peters's admission that not one member of Congress has asked the Copyright Office to comment on the settlement - even though it may fundamentally change how Americans can access and use copyrighted information.  This might be because the enormous sea-change that the Settlement represents has not sunk in with the public.  For example, the Copyright Office was worried that there might be a huge rush to register works just prior to the Jan. 2009 deadline in order that they would be eligible to be included in the settlement. Only two publishers, however, sought to register their past publications.  (To me, this is also more evidence of how we have to live with copyright rules that were designed to serve and protect a miniscule portion of the country's creative output, but in the process throttle other types of creativity.)  But while the public might not understand how important the Settlement is, I would have assumed that the Copyright Office does.  I was therefore disappointed to learn that it will not be commenting on the proposed settlement...

...With the digital files, Google considers the[m] to be its property, and places restrictions on the files: see 3.12 in the settlement.  It also places restrictions on the use of the digital files, such as limiting certain users to nonconsumptive research - you can use the books so long as you don't  read them.  Use is also limited to qualified users, and for-profit entities can only use research corpus with G[oogle's] & R[egistry]'s consent.  Google is allowed to use the digital files in a number of ways that may help its business model (search and advertising).

...In the settlement agreement, only Google gets to make use of orphan works - those works whose rights holders [d]o not  announce themselves to the Registry.  The Registry would be able to offer license terms to others for those works with "active rights holders" who have made themselves known to the Registry, but they cannot license works from "non-active rights holders." ...Even more troubling, the royalties from the use of the orphan works go not to the holders of the rights in those works, but to all the other active authors and Google.  In Picker's view, the settlement allows Google and the Registry to turn orphan works into a private public domain.

...There seemed to be a lot of concern from the audience that the Registry has no bylaws, no public means of selecting members, no guaranteed international participants (even though all international authors and publishers are swept into the settlement).  Adler's response: NY State law will govern it and ensure that the public interest is protected.  My analysis: the upcoming wars between authors and publishers are going to be fierce. "

http://blog.librarylaw.com/librarylaw/2009/03/google-books-settlement-at-columbia-part-1.html
http://blog.librarylaw.com/librarylaw/2009/03/google-books-settlement-at-columbia-part-2.html


From MorganA at Warhol.Org  Mon Mar 30 06:07:29 2009
From: MorganA at Warhol.Org (Morgan, Amber)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:07:29 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Standards SIG:  Medium description for works on paper
Message-ID: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB187DE8FC@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>

I was wondering if some of you would be willing to share how you
describe works on paper.  Specifically, how detailed is the medium
information on your wall labels?  If you have an ink drawing on paper,
would you just say "ink on paper," or would you include the color and
specific paper type, such as "red ink on ivory paper?"  CCO seems to
favor longer, more detailed descriptions for works on paper.  CDWA
indicates that material color is optional.  If you are following these
standards, are you indicating color all of the time, or only when it is
somehow exceptional or necessary?  I did a quick search on a handful of
museums' sites and it seemed like color was always being indicated for
drawings.  

 

Thanks,
Amber

 

the warhol:
Amber E. Morgan
Associate Registrar
117 Sandusky Street
Pittsburgh, PA 15212
T 412.237.8306
F 412.237.8340
E morgana at warhol.org
W www.warhol.org 

The Andy Warhol Museum
One of the four Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh 

Email newsletter http://members.carnegiemuseums.org/email 
Membership http://members.carnegiemuseums.org/SupportCMP 

 

 


From psully at magnes.org  Mon Mar 30 07:58:16 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:58:16 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Standards SIG:  Medium description for works on paper
In-Reply-To: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB187DE8FC@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
References: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB187DE8FC@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B64820F@jlm-net.jlm.local>

I have to admit that I'm fairly inconsistent with adding the color info (mostly because I tend to use CDWA standards). It also makes it somewhat difficult when the ink in question is now sepia, but it used to be black ink. which is correct?

But for textiles, in particular, I often get really detailed: ex: "gold metallic embroidery and red satin silk appliqu? on green silk velvet".

I'm curious about others' answers to this as well.

~P

Perian Sully
Collections Information Manager
Web Programs Strategist
The Magnes
Berkeley, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Amber
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:07 AM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Standards SIG: Medium description for works on paper

I was wondering if some of you would be willing to share how you
describe works on paper.  Specifically, how detailed is the medium
information on your wall labels?  If you have an ink drawing on paper,
would you just say "ink on paper," or would you include the color and
specific paper type, such as "red ink on ivory paper?"  CCO seems to
favor longer, more detailed descriptions for works on paper.  CDWA
indicates that material color is optional.  If you are following these
standards, are you indicating color all of the time, or only when it is
somehow exceptional or necessary?  I did a quick search on a handful of
museums' sites and it seemed like color was always being indicated for
drawings.  

 

Thanks,
Amber

 

the warhol:
Amber E. Morgan
Associate Registrar
117 Sandusky Street
Pittsburgh, PA 15212
T 412.237.8306
F 412.237.8340
E morgana at warhol.org
W www.warhol.org 

The Andy Warhol Museum
One of the four Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh 

Email newsletter http://members.carnegiemuseums.org/email 
Membership http://members.carnegiemuseums.org/SupportCMP 

 

 

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From RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org  Mon Mar 30 08:18:09 2009
From: RealW at CarnegieMuseums.Org (Real, Will)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:18:09 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Standards SIG:  Medium description for works on paper
In-Reply-To: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B64820F@jlm-net.jlm.local>
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	<AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B64820F@jlm-net.jlm.local>
Message-ID: <04EFDDC9208D114890720783D4924BEB1923F944@EXCHANGE-4.Private.CarnegieMuseums.Org>

We aspire to more detailed medium descriptions in the collections system, but often use a "dumbed-down" version for wall labels. This is determined by editorial and stylistic standards. While many times the back end and front end versions coincide, in some cases I don't see a way around distinguising between the collections data and the public presentation of the same information. Personally I favor more information over less, specific information over generic. But that may be the ex-conservator in me talking.

We have also been cleaning up our old medium descriptions so that the terminology we use is consistent and as much as possible based on AAT. We'll probably be at this well into the next decade at least.  

Will Real
Carnegie Museum of Art

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Perian Sully
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:58 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Standards SIG: Medium description for works on paper

I have to admit that I'm fairly inconsistent with adding the color info (mostly because I tend to use CDWA standards). It also makes it somewhat difficult when the ink in question is now sepia, but it used to be black ink. which is correct?

But for textiles, in particular, I often get really detailed: ex: "gold metallic embroidery and red satin silk appliqu? on green silk velvet".

I'm curious about others' answers to this as well.

~P

Perian Sully
Collections Information Manager
Web Programs Strategist
The Magnes
Berkeley, CA

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [MCN-L] Standards SIG: Medium description for works on paper

I was wondering if some of you would be willing to share how you describe works on paper.  Specifically, how detailed is the medium information on your wall labels?  If you have an ink drawing on paper, would you just say "ink on paper," or would you include the color and specific paper type, such as "red ink on ivory paper?"  CCO seems to favor longer, more detailed descriptions for works on paper.  CDWA indicates that material color is optional.  If you are following these standards, are you indicating color all of the time, or only when it is somehow exceptional or necessary?  I did a quick search on a handful of museums' sites and it seemed like color was always being indicated for drawings.  

 

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From hwitchey at clevelandart.org  Mon Mar 30 15:22:21 2009
From: hwitchey at clevelandart.org (Holly Witchey)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:22:21 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
	please....
Message-ID: <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D@MAIL02.clevelandart.org>

Dear List-Servers:

Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em) listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm for this one?

Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
Director of New Media Initiatives
The Cleveland Museum of Art
11150 East Blvd.
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
Telephone: 216-707-2653
Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org

From Jay at GallerySystems.com  Mon Mar 30 15:53:24 2009
From: Jay at GallerySystems.com (Jay Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:53:24 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
	helpplease....
References: <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D@MAIL02.clevelandart.org>
Message-ID: <81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8C6BAC6@gsml.gallerysystems.com>

Holly/Tom - How would this work?: provide the 2 standard headphone jacks
(IPod and Mobile Phone, 3.5mm and 2.5mm) at each station and let people
use their own headphones. For those who don't have their own, let them
purchase the cheap airline type in the museum shop.

Jay


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Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
helpplease....

Dear List-Servers:

Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
for this one?

Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
Director of New Media Initiatives
The Cleveland Museum of Art
11150 East Blvd.
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
Telephone: 216-707-2653
Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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From Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org  Mon Mar 30 15:58:06 2009
From: Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org (Christina DePaolo)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:58:06 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
	help	please....
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We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a possibility for your installation? They are affordable and easy to install/manage. We use them in our African and Native American Galleries and special exhibits. 

Christina

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Dear List-Servers:

Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em) listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm for this one?

Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
Director of New Media Initiatives
The Cleveland Museum of Art
11150 East Blvd.
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
Telephone: 216-707-2653
Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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From pjohnson at skirball.org  Mon Mar 30 16:02:37 2009
From: pjohnson at skirball.org (Johnson, Peter)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:37 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
	helpplease....
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We also make use of sound cones. There tends to be a little bleed-off of
the sound as you near them, but it's not disruptive, and you can't
really hear much until you are directly underneath the cone.

Peter Johnson
Project Manager for Records, Documents & Images
Skirball Cultural Center
2701 N. Sepulveda Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90049
310-440-4707
pjohnson at skirball.org

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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:22 PM
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Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
helpplease....

Dear List-Servers:

Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
for this one?

Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
Director of New Media Initiatives
The Cleveland Museum of Art
11150 East Blvd.
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
Telephone: 216-707-2653
Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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From bwyman at denverartmuseum.org  Mon Mar 30 18:42:39 2009
From: bwyman at denverartmuseum.org (Bruce Wyman)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:42:39 -0600
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
 help	please....
Message-ID: <p06240879c5f7338e0178@[192.168.0.6]>

>We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a 
>possibility for your installation? They are affordable and easy to 
>install/manage. We use them in our African and Native American 
>Galleries and special exhibits.

The Tech Museum in San Jose did an exhibition about four years ago in 
which they built their own sound domes -- sound tubes, really -- 
in-house. They worked just as well as the commercially available 
sound domes for a fraction of the cost (I'd guess around $200 vs $2k).

Attached is an image (assuming that the MCN listserv doesn't get all 
fussy about image attachments) in which you can see three of the 
sound tubes hanging form the ceiling (I've overexposed the image so 
you can actually see them). The trick there was to have enough 
vertical space to make the tube long enough to work. I'd imagine if 
you were working with a drop ceiling you could hide part of it in the 
ceiling to reduce the overall visual impact.

-bw.
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From bwyman at denverartmuseum.org  Mon Mar 30 20:49:43 2009
From: bwyman at denverartmuseum.org (Bruce Wyman)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:49:43 -0600
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
 help	please....
Message-ID: <p0624087dc5f750fc4b18@[192.168.0.6]>

Attached is an image (assuming that the MCN listserv doesn't get all 
fussy about image attachments)

...turns out the listserv does get all fussy. If you want to see the 
image of the soundtubes at the Tech Museum, here's a link instead - 
<http://support.denverartmuseum.org/soundtubes.jpg>.

-bw.
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office: 720.913.0159  /  fax: 720.913.0002
<bwyman at denverartmuseum.org>

From akeshet at imj.org.il  Mon Mar 30 20:57:06 2009
From: akeshet at imj.org.il (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet@imj.org.il])
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:57:06 +0300
Subject: [MCN-L] IP SIG,
 et al.:  AU Panel: 'Scholarly Communication in the Digital Age'
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From: Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property Copyright Listserv 

American University Panel: 'Scholarly Communication in the Digital Age'

March 31, 2009 - 3pm
Mary Graydon Center, Room 4

A faculty member posts preliminary research results on the Web and gets four million hits. Later the research is published as an article in a scholarly journal whose publishers require her to take down the Web site. The journal reaches far fewer people because it has only 15,000 subscribers.  

Another faculty member learns from his university library that it may not be able to afford the high subscription rate for the journal that published his research and the library may have to pay additional fees to post his articles on electronic reserve for students.

A new government regulation requires researchers who are funded by the National Institutes of Health to make their medical research freely accessible within 12 months through PubMed, a free, open access database.

Harvard University initiates an open access publication model; faculty in the arts and sciences voted to make their work available on the Web.

These are actual scenarios of challenges facing scholarly communication in the digital age. New open access publication models and new ways of managing intellectual property are helping to address some of the challenges and assist in disseminating crucial information to those who need it. Open access sources are usually free and may include online open access journals such as Plos (the Public Library of Science) or institutional repositories on the Web. These issues will be addressed at the AU Library's second annual Digital Futures Forum to be held on March 31, 3-5 p.m., MGC, 4-5.

Three distinguished panelists will review new options for sharing research and managing intellectual property, such as digital repositories, open access journals, and Web information commons. Also on the agenda are how faculty can both manage their copyright and provide access to their research, as well as Harvard University's recent initiative to expand access to faculty publications.

Panelists: Julia Blixrud, assistant director of public programs, Scholarly Publishing and Academic Resources Coalition. SPARC is an international alliance of academic and research libraries that works to encourage the growth of new publication models that expand dissemination of scholarly research and reduce financial pressures on libraries.

Michael Carroll, professor at Villanova University School of Law, is currently on leave and teaching at WCL. Carroll serves on the Board of Directors of the Creative Commons and is the author of the faculty addendum.

Stuart Shieber, James O. Welch Jr. and Virginia B. Welch Professor of Computer Sciences and director of the Office for Scholarly Communication, Harvard University. Shieber led the groundbreaking initiative at Harvard in which the Faculty of Arts and Sciences voted unanimously to commit to an open access policy.

Reception will follow. For more information or to register, call 885-3847 or e-mail larocca at american.edu.

From L.Will at willpowerinfo.co.uk  Mon Mar 30 23:40:11 2009
From: L.Will at willpowerinfo.co.uk (Leonard Will)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:40:11 +0100
Subject: [MCN-L] Early booking discount finishes today for ISKO UK
	Conference, London, 22-23 June 2009
Message-ID: <WwGFGGCbjc0JFAv3@willpowerinfo.co.uk>

Book today to save 30 pounds
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The International Society for Knowledge Organization, UK Chapter (ISKO 
UK) will be holding its 2009 conference in June, on a topic that is very 
relevant to museums wishing to make their information more widely 
available:

"Content Architecture: Exploiting and Managing Diverse Resources"
ISKO UK 2009 Conference, London, 22-23 June 2009

VENUE:  University College London
         Gower Street, London, WC1E 6BT

EARLY BIRD FEE - if registration is completed  **and payment received** 
by ISKO UK on or before 31st March.

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We have 28 presentations, with speakers from ten countries. Topics
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As keynote speakers we have:

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From lensteinbach at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 03:14:14 2009
From: lensteinbach at gmail.com (Leonard Steinbach)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:14:14 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
	please....
In-Reply-To: <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D@MAIL02.clevelandart.org>
References: <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D@MAIL02.clevelandart.org>
Message-ID: <b07138290903310414t7fdb6de3w9105f43de729e694@mail.gmail.com>

The issue that is not clear here, is how personal the experience is supposed
to be (e.g. each visitor starts or chooses audio), and the quality of sound
(frequency range, stereo audio affect, spatial ambiance)...since aesthetics
is the issue, a little exploration should find some really cool looking
head/headband/earsets. They can be wireless, but charging may be an issue.

Here is one company with cool stuff.

http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/screaming-hand-series-skullcrushers-p-103.html

Then there is always the possibility of tethering a wand (e.g. tour-mate).

Here is another site which might be helpful.

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-application/ultimate-headphones/

You could also find interesting ways of "hanging" the headsets, e.g.
recessed wall compartment.

And of course, sometimes you just cant win.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Holly Witchey <hwitchey at clevelandart.org>wrote:

> Dear List-Servers:
>
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em) listening
> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't
> like the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers
> often suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by
> many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will
> satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we
> aren't looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
>
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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From dougm at northwestmuseum.org  Tue Mar 31 07:45:46 2009
From: dougm at northwestmuseum.org (doug melven)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:45:46 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
	please....
In-Reply-To: <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D@MAIL02.clevelandart.org>
References: <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D@MAIL02.clevelandart.org>
Message-ID: <15910A0878BB4888B3FE20DCF8A632F1@NWMAC1.local>

We just purchased one of
these from our Canadian neighbors, seems to be very well made
And easy to clean...


http://www.stoplisten.com/pdfs/gorilla_handset.pdf
 
Doug Melven
Information Technology Systems Specialist
Northwest Museum of Arts and Culture
2316 West First Avenue
Spokane, WA 99204

(509) 363-5341

-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Holly Witchey
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:22 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Cc: Tom Hood
Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
helpplease....

Dear List-Servers:

Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em) listening
stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't
like the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers
often suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by
many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will
satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we
aren't looking to mortgage the farm for this one?

Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
Director of New Media Initiatives
The Cleveland Museum of Art
11150 East Blvd.
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
Telephone: 216-707-2653
Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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From proctorn at si.edu  Tue Mar 31 11:13:32 2009
From: proctorn at si.edu (Proctor, Nancy)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:13:32 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Headphone alternatives mcn-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 28
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1238529602.2013.mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Message-ID: <C5F7E39C.4A70%proctorn@si.edu>

Beyond most museums' budgets, but these directional speakers are pretty
cool: 
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/woody_norris_invents_amazing_things.html

Think Kate Bush, Experiment IV


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>       helpplease.... (Jay Hoffman)
>    3. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>       please.... (Christina DePaolo)
>    4. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
>       helpplease.... (Johnson, Peter)
>    5. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>       please.... (Bruce Wyman)
>    6. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>       please.... (Bruce Wyman)
>    7. IP SIG, et al.:  AU Panel: 'Scholarly Communication in the
>       Digital Age' (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet at imj.org.il])
>    8. Early booking discount finishes today for ISKO UK Conference,
>       London, 22-23 June 2009 (Leonard Will)
>    9. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>       please.... (Leonard Steinbach)
>   10. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>       please.... (doug melven)
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:22:21 -0400
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> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
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> Dear List-Servers:
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> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em) listening
> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't like
> the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers often
> suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.
> Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the
> needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't
> looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:53:24 -0400
> From: "Jay Hoffman" <Jay at GallerySystems.com>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
> little helpplease....
> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Cc: Tom Hood <thood at clevelandart.org>
> Message-ID:
> <81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8C6BAC6 at gsml.gallerysystems.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Holly/Tom - How would this work?: provide the 2 standard headphone jacks
> (IPod and Mobile Phone, 3.5mm and 2.5mm) at each station and let people
> use their own headphones. For those who don't have their own, let them
> purchase the cheap airline type in the museum shop.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Holly Witchey
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:22 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Cc: Tom Hood
> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
> helpplease....
> 
> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
> listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
> design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
> wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
> with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
> delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
> mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
> for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum
> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
> 
> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> 
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> 
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> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:58:06 -0700
> From: Christina DePaolo <Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
> little help please....
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Cc: Tom Hood <thood at clevelandart.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1645631ADA at dtes01.SAM.Home>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a possibility for
> your installation? They are affordable and easy to install/manage. We use them
> in our African and Native American Galleries and special exhibits.
> 
> Christina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Holly
> Witchey
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:22 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Cc: Tom Hood
> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
> please....
> 
> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em) listening
> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't like
> the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers often
> suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.
> Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the
> needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't
> looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer
> Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
> 
> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> 
> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit:
> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
> 
> The MCN-L archives can be found at:
> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:37 -0700
> From: "Johnson, Peter" <pjohnson at skirball.org>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
> little helpplease....
> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
> <2A6CDDE8F1CB5D428E7CA6014794A58201EA4D90 at scc-mail.skirball.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> We also make use of sound cones. There tends to be a little bleed-off of
> the sound as you near them, but it's not disruptive, and you can't
> really hear much until you are directly underneath the cone.
> 
> Peter Johnson
> Project Manager for Records, Documents & Images
> Skirball Cultural Center
> 2701 N. Sepulveda Blvd.
> Los Angeles, CA 90049
> 310-440-4707
> pjohnson at skirball.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
> Holly Witchey
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:22 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Cc: Tom Hood
> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
> helpplease....
> 
> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
> listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
> design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
> wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
> with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
> delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
> mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
> for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum
> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
> 
> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> 
> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit:
> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
> 
> The MCN-L archives can be found at:
> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:42:39 -0600
> From: Bruce Wyman <bwyman at denverartmuseum.org>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
> little help please....
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID: <p06240879c5f7338e0178@[192.168.0.6]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
>> We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a
>> possibility for your installation? They are affordable and easy to
>> install/manage. We use them in our African and Native American
>> Galleries and special exhibits.
> 
> The Tech Museum in San Jose did an exhibition about four years ago in
> which they built their own sound domes -- sound tubes, really --
> in-house. They worked just as well as the commercially available
> sound domes for a fraction of the cost (I'd guess around $200 vs $2k).
> 
> Attached is an image (assuming that the MCN listserv doesn't get all
> fussy about image attachments) in which you can see three of the
> sound tubes hanging form the ceiling (I've overexposed the image so
> you can actually see them). The trick there was to have enough
> vertical space to make the tube long enough to work. I'd imagine if
> you were working with a drop ceiling you could hide part of it in the
> ceiling to reduce the overall visual impact.
> 
> -bw.

-- 
Nancy Proctor
Head of New Media Initiatives

Smithsonian American Art Museum (SAAM)
MRC 970 PO Box 37012
Washington DC 20013-7012
USA 

o: +1-202-633-8439
f: +1-202-633-8455
c: +1-301-642-6257

proctorn at si.edu

http://www.americanart.si.edu
http://eyelevel.si.edu/





From paul at musedia.net  Tue Mar 31 13:11:28 2009
From: paul at musedia.net (musedia)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:11:28 +0200
Subject: [MCN-L] Headphone alternatives
Message-ID: <861069f90903311411x59bbacdv6b87abcf5364b840@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The police museum in Stockholm, Sweden, has neat single earpieces (mono)
on a chord, at their oral history exhibits. Sleek, robust (rubber,
metal) and easy to clean. See attached pic.

Best wishes,
Paul Henningsson

musedia

------------------------------------------------
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402 42 gothenburg
sweden

tel . +46 (0)735-52 23 36
e-mail . info at musedia.net
www.musedia.net
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2009/3/31, Proctor, Nancy <proctorn at si.edu>:
> Beyond most museums' budgets, but these directional speakers are pretty
> cool:
> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/woody_norris_invents_amazing_things.html
>
> Think Kate Bush, Experiment IV
>
>
> On 3/31/09 4:00 PM, "mcn-l-request at mcn.edu" <mcn-l-request at mcn.edu> wrote:
>
>> Send mcn-l mailing list submissions to
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>>    1. If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>>       please.... (Holly Witchey)
>>    2. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
>>       helpplease.... (Jay Hoffman)
>>    3. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>>       please.... (Christina DePaolo)
>>    4. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
>>       helpplease.... (Johnson, Peter)
>>    5. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>>       please.... (Bruce Wyman)
>>    6. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>>       please.... (Bruce Wyman)
>>    7. IP SIG, et al.:  AU Panel: 'Scholarly Communication in the
>>       Digital Age' (Amalyah Keshet  [akeshet at imj.org.il])
>>    8. Early booking discount finishes today for ISKO UK Conference,
>>       London, 22-23 June 2009 (Leonard Will)
>>    9. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>>       please.... (Leonard Steinbach)
>>   10. Re: If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>>       please.... (doug melven)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:22:21 -0400
>> From: Holly Witchey <hwitchey at clevelandart.org>
>> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
>> help please....
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
>> Cc: Tom Hood <thood at clevelandart.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <5CF048364B79B24694B5430B00F92C1C01F4CA655D at MAIL02.clevelandart.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Dear List-Servers:
>>
>> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
>> listening
>> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't
>> like
>> the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers
>> often
>> suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.
>> Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the
>> needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't
>> looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
>>
>> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
>> Director of New Media Initiatives
>> The Cleveland Museum of Art
>> 11150 East Blvd.
>> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
>> Telephone: 216-707-2653
>> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:53:24 -0400
>> From: "Jay Hoffman" <Jay at GallerySystems.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
>> little helpplease....
>> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
>> Cc: Tom Hood <thood at clevelandart.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <81314D11B3449840906FA6E34A6D08C8C6BAC6 at gsml.gallerysystems.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Holly/Tom - How would this work?: provide the 2 standard headphone jacks
>> (IPod and Mobile Phone, 3.5mm and 2.5mm) at each station and let people
>> use their own headphones. For those who don't have their own, let them
>> purchase the cheap airline type in the museum shop.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
>> Holly Witchey
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:22 PM
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
>> Cc: Tom Hood
>> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
>> helpplease....
>>
>> Dear List-Servers:
>>
>> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
>> listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
>> design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
>> wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
>> with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
>> delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
>> mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
>> for this one?
>>
>> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
>> Director of New Media Initiatives
>> The Cleveland Museum of Art
>> 11150 East Blvd.
>> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
>> Telephone: 216-707-2653
>> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum
>> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>>
>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
>>
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>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
>>
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>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:58:06 -0700
>> From: Christina DePaolo <Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
>> little help please....
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
>> Cc: Tom Hood <thood at clevelandart.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <6440C474B3F6FE4EB44B34421B3E501E1645631ADA at dtes01.SAM.Home>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a possibility
>> for
>> your installation? They are affordable and easy to install/manage. We use
>> them
>> in our African and Native American Galleries and special exhibits.
>>
>> Christina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
>> Holly
>> Witchey
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:22 PM
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
>> Cc: Tom Hood
>> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little help
>> please....
>>
>> Dear List-Servers:
>>
>> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
>> listening
>> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't
>> like
>> the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers
>> often
>> suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.
>> Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the
>> needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't
>> looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
>>
>> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
>> Director of New Media Initiatives
>> The Cleveland Museum of Art
>> 11150 East Blvd.
>> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
>> Telephone: 216-707-2653
>> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer
>> Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>>
>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
>>
>> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit:
>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
>>
>> The MCN-L archives can be found at:
>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:37 -0700
>> From: "Johnson, Peter" <pjohnson at skirball.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
>> little helpplease....
>> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>> <2A6CDDE8F1CB5D428E7CA6014794A58201EA4D90 at scc-mail.skirball.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> We also make use of sound cones. There tends to be a little bleed-off of
>> the sound as you near them, but it's not disruptive, and you can't
>> really hear much until you are directly underneath the cone.
>>
>> Peter Johnson
>> Project Manager for Records, Documents & Images
>> Skirball Cultural Center
>> 2701 N. Sepulveda Blvd.
>> Los Angeles, CA 90049
>> 310-440-4707
>> pjohnson at skirball.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
>> Holly Witchey
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:22 PM
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
>> Cc: Tom Hood
>> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
>> helpplease....
>>
>> Dear List-Servers:
>>
>> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
>> listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
>> design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
>> wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
>> with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
>> delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
>> mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
>> for this one?
>>
>> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
>> Director of New Media Initiatives
>> The Cleveland Museum of Art
>> 11150 East Blvd.
>> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
>> Telephone: 216-707-2653
>> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum
>> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
>>
>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu
>>
>> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit:
>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
>>
>> The MCN-L archives can be found at:
>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:42:39 -0600
>> From: Bruce Wyman <bwyman at denverartmuseum.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
>> little help please....
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
>> Message-ID: <p06240879c5f7338e0178@[192.168.0.6]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>> We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a
>>> possibility for your installation? They are affordable and easy to
>>> install/manage. We use them in our African and Native American
>>> Galleries and special exhibits.
>>
>> The Tech Museum in San Jose did an exhibition about four years ago in
>> which they built their own sound domes -- sound tubes, really --
>> in-house. They worked just as well as the commercially available
>> sound domes for a fraction of the cost (I'd guess around $200 vs $2k).
>>
>> Attached is an image (assuming that the MCN listserv doesn't get all
>> fussy about image attachments) in which you can see three of the
>> sound tubes hanging form the ceiling (I've overexposed the image so
>> you can actually see them). The trick there was to have enough
>> vertical space to make the tube long enough to work. I'd imagine if
>> you were working with a drop ceiling you could hide part of it in the
>> ceiling to reduce the overall visual impact.
>>
>> -bw.
>
> --
> Nancy Proctor
> Head of New Media Initiatives
>
> Smithsonian American Art Museum (SAAM)
> MRC 970 PO Box 37012
> Washington DC 20013-7012
> USA
>
> o: +1-202-633-8439
> f: +1-202-633-8455
> c: +1-301-642-6257
>
> proctorn at si.edu
>
> http://www.americanart.si.edu
> http://eyelevel.si.edu/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From psully at magnes.org  Tue Mar 31 14:55:36 2009
From: psully at magnes.org (Perian Sully)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:55:36 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Report comparing open source content management systems
Message-ID: <AD775DE5635C2042BF1DCB7EED36A83B648308@jlm-net.jlm.local>

Via Twitter, I found a report comparing opensource CMS Drupal, Joomla,
Wordpress, and Plone:
http://www.idealware.org/blog/2009/03/new-report-comparing-wordpress-joo
mla.html

 

Free registration is required, but it seems like a handy guide.

 

Perian Sully

Collections Information Manager

Web Programs Strategist

The Magnes

2911 Russell St.

Berkeley, CA 94705

Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

Fax: 510-849-3673

http://www.magnes.org

http://www.musematic.org

http://www.mediaandtechnology.org

 


From lesleyeharris at comcast.net  Tue Mar 31 17:19:48 2009
From: lesleyeharris at comcast.net (Lesley Ellen Harris)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:19:48 -0400
Subject: [MCN-L] Copyright online
References: <LYRIS-63633-9213595-2009.03.31-18.13.18--lesleyeharris#comcast.net@sla.lyris.net>
Message-ID: <770E4535-A2B2-4C81-828E-C0D526C2D3DF@comcast.net>

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From minneman at onomy.com  Tue Mar 31 18:31:34 2009
From: minneman at onomy.com (Scott L. Minneman)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:31:34 -0700
Subject: [MCN-L] Headphone alternatives mcn-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 28
In-Reply-To: <C5F7E39C.4A70%proctorn@si.edu>
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Focused audio delivery systems...the smaller model of ATC HyperSonic Sound
(HSS H-450) is not *that* expensive (nor is the smaller Holosonics AS-16
model), but you'd want to look carefully at your application to see if
they're the right thing to deploy.

According to museums where I've seen the HSS H-450 used, they can almost be
*too* directional.  If you point them at a listening position from a
location in front of a visitor, you get adults or kids, but not both.  If
you point them down, then the sweet spot ends up assuming a specific viewing
distance.  In the real world, these mounting constraints may become a
headache.  Perhaps the larger model gets around some of these issues, but
for about twice the money.

I've personally used the Holosonics audio spotlight technology, as well.  It
has similar issues in terms of directionality, although the larger AS-24
model we have used has a good-sized hotspot (but again, it's pretty
expensive).

If you ask me, the frequency response of both brands of this type of
speaker...the ATC and the Holosonics...leaves much to be desired.  They are
both weak in frequency ranges where there are fundamental speech sounds.
You can infill with a subwoofer, but the crossover frequency has to be so
high to cover the speaker's low-frequency roll-off that the subwoofer is
both distinctly audible (negating the point of a highly-directional speaker
solution) and can easily be localized (negating one usual placement
advantage of a subwoofer).

They are *very* cool, for the right source setting in the right facility
with the right content (it helps if lower frequencies aren't critical
(women's voices are better than men's, and whispers are better than
either)).  If, for instance, you have a single person in a very specific
location without lots of competing sounds, the effect can be incredibly
powerful and even spooky.  

I don't know about 24/7 reliability of either of these.  Our AS-24 has been
back for warranty work (after not all that many hours of use), which was
cheerfully done.  I was told that the H-450s at the museum have also needed
work from time to time.

The audio tubes and parabolic domes that have been suggested here are a
whole other kettle of fish, with their own unique collection of pros and
cons.  You'd definitely want to try those out in your setting, for your
specific application, too...just to see if they'll do the trick and not have
too many side-effects.  Things one might be able to get away with in the din
of a science center or a retail venue may be show-stoppers in an art museum.

Scott

Scott Minneman, PhD
CEO/CTO - Onomy Labs, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Proctor, Nancy
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:14 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Headphone alternatives mcn-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 28

Beyond most museums' budgets, but these directional speakers are pretty
cool: 
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/woody_norris_invents_amazing_things.html

Think Kate Bush, Experiment IV


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> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:22:21 -0400
> From: Holly Witchey <hwitchey at clevelandart.org>
> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
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> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
listening
> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't
like
> the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers
often
> suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.
> Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the
> needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't
> looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:53:24 -0400
> From: "Jay Hoffman" <Jay at GallerySystems.com>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
> little helpplease....
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> Holly/Tom - How would this work?: provide the 2 standard headphone jacks
> (IPod and Mobile Phone, 3.5mm and 2.5mm) at each station and let people
> use their own headphones. For those who don't have their own, let them
> purchase the cheap airline type in the museum shop.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
> listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
> design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
> wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
> with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
> delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
> mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
> for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:58:06 -0700
> From: Christina DePaolo <Christinad at SeattleArtMuseum.org>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
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> We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a possibility
for
> your installation? They are affordable and easy to install/manage. We use
them
> in our African and Native American Galleries and special exhibits.
> 
> Christina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> please....
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> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
listening
> stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of design doesn't
like
> the look of big old headphones hanging from the wall--and our customers
often
> suffer from a fear of germs associated with equiment to be used by many.
> Anyone got any cunning ideas as a delivery mechanism that will satisfy the
> needs of both parties.  Did I mention there's a recession and we aren't
> looking to mortgage the farm for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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> From: "Johnson, Peter" <pjohnson at skirball.org>
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> We also make use of sound cones. There tends to be a little bleed-off of
> the sound as you near them, but it's not disruptive, and you can't
> really hear much until you are directly underneath the cone.
> 
> Peter Johnson
> Project Manager for Records, Documents & Images
> Skirball Cultural Center
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A little
> helpplease....
> 
> Dear List-Servers:
> 
> Our head of exhibitions would like to install a few (3 count 'em)
> listening stations in a special exhibition this summer.  Our head of
> design doesn't like the look of big old headphones hanging from the
> wall--and our customers often suffer from a fear of germs associated
> with equiment to be used by many.  Anyone got any cunning ideas as a
> delivery mechanism that will satisfy the needs of both parties.  Did I
> mention there's a recession and we aren't looking to mortgage the farm
> for this one?
> 
> Holly M. Witchey, Ph.D.
> Director of New Media Initiatives
> The Cleveland Museum of Art
> 11150 East Blvd.
> Cleveland, Ohio 44106
> Telephone: 216-707-2653
> Email: hwitchey at clevelandart.org
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:42:39 -0600
> From: Bruce Wyman <bwyman at denverartmuseum.org>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] If not a big set of headphones than what? A
> little help please....
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>> We have had a lot of good results with sound cones. Is that a
>> possibility for your installation? They are affordable and easy to
>> install/manage. We use them in our African and Native American
>> Galleries and special exhibits.
> 
> The Tech Museum in San Jose did an exhibition about four years ago in
> which they built their own sound domes -- sound tubes, really --
> in-house. They worked just as well as the commercially available
> sound domes for a fraction of the cost (I'd guess around $200 vs $2k).
> 
> Attached is an image (assuming that the MCN listserv doesn't get all
> fussy about image attachments) in which you can see three of the
> sound tubes hanging form the ceiling (I've overexposed the image so
> you can actually see them). The trick there was to have enough
> vertical space to make the tube long enough to work. I'd imagine if
> you were working with a drop ceiling you could hide part of it in the
> ceiling to reduce the overall visual impact.
> 
> -bw.

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